From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Greylist: delayed 10544 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at befuddled; Wed, 01 May 2013 12:09:51 EDT Received: from s-out-001.smtp25.com (s-out-001.smtp25.com [67.228.91.90]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 147681EF08B for ; Wed, 1 May 2013 12:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs.covici.com (ccs.covici.com [70.109.53.110]) by s-out-001.smtp25.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r41G9h93004941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 1 May 2013 12:09:44 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r41G9hwv004014 for ; Wed, 1 May 2013 12:09:43 -0400 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Any News on cut-and-paste bug? In-reply-to: <518137EF.1040502@math.wisc.edu> References: <51811C92.4020104@math.wisc.edu> <20130501135012.GA5940@type.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> <518137EF.1040502@math.wisc.edu> Comments: In-reply-to "John G. Heim" message dated "Wed, 01 May 2013 10:42:39 -0500." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 23.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 12:09:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4013.1367424583@ccs.covici.com> From: covici@ccs.covici.com X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: s-out-001.smtp25.com-r41G9h93004941 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 16:09:53 -0000 I wonder if that error code is trying to tell us something -- I do know if I try to use the soft synth with that patch installed, it crashes, presumably because its trying to release a null pointer or something. I also saw on the serial list, some kinf of call to platform register (not exactly sure of the name), so I wonder if these are the right calls anymore? John G. Heim wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 05/01/13 08:50, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > John G. Heim, le Wed 01 May 2013 08:45:54 -0500, a =C3=A9crit : > >> A big part of the problem is that even if someone is willing to take on > >> writing fixes for speakup, the kernel people won't cooperate. I tried = to get > >> some help/advice from the linux kernel list on implementing the bug f= ix I > >> had for serial synths. Their advice -- start over. > > > > Which isn't really not cooperating. The current code will keep having > > such kind of issues until it gets rewritten a more integrated way. >=20 > Well, the details of this particular bug are significant. The problem > was that the speakup code was erroring out on what I believe was a > totally meaningless error code. All I did was change the code to print > a warning and keep going. >=20 > If you are a programmer, you may be saying to yourself, "Well, that's > not a good way to solve a problem." But I am about as sure as I can be > that the function call that returned the error code did nothing. The > function was part of the kernel code, not speakup. So I went on the > kernel list to ask what the function was supposed to do, was it > necessary to call it at all, and how to call it correctly. >=20 > All I wanted to do was get rid of what I suspected was a call to a > function that apparently did nothing and the subsequent erroring > out. But nobody seemed to know what the function did or if they did, > they weren't sharing. They did, however, take the time to criticize > the speakup code itself. >=20 > So I was like, "Come on, people. Can't we just focus on this one > problem? It seems like a small fix for a huge problem. I mean, I > cannot use my hardware speech synth without patching the kernel > code. This could cost me my job. It could cost a lot of blind systems > admins their jobs." >=20 > No love. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup --=20 Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com