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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:00:48 -0000 If grml does not have something you need, let me know and I'll pass it along to the grml developers. I can't guarantee anything, of course. That password changing program seems like a likely candidate for inclusion though. It may already be on the grml CD for all I know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert cole" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Speakup enabled Distros for Blind Technicians > Thanks for the responses, Glenn, as well as others who have responded to > my message. > > It looks like GRML has everything I would probably need built in. This is > going to be great as it will be even more of an incentive for me to learn > the command line. As I mentioned before, I do a lot fo work on computer > systems for peopl earound me, and I was looking for a great Linux system > that I could use to recover files from broken Windows installations as > well as other things. While I still enjoy working with a GUI environment, > I am really beginning to see that I can do much more in the command line, > and much more quickly at that. > > Thanks for the suggestion of GRML, as it seems like the best choice for me > and for what I need. I want to try to work as much "eyes free" as possible > when it comes to working on computer systems nowadays. > > I added the GRML Debian repository to my Ubuntu 11.10 sources.list, > installed grml2usb, and then successfully installed and tested GRML on my > flash drive. It worked perfectly! > > Glenn, thanks for suggesting Vinux and Ubuntu. I am primarily a Ubuntu > user right now on my desktop system, but I don't think I could use either > of these for doing PC repair and recovery work from a live environment. > > Take care, everyone, and thanks again. > > On 01/18/2012 06:13 PM, Glenn wrote: >> I like Ubuntu, but I would go with 10.10, as 11.04 and 11.10 do not work >> so >> well with Orca, and I am sure that you would have the same problems with >> speakup. >> Vinux has a great version of Ubuntu ready made for the visually impaired. >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert cole" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:02 PM >> Subject: Re: Speakup enabled Distros for Blind Technicians >> >> >> Thanks, Glenn. >> >> I actually ran apt-cache search password, and I came across chntpw in >> the results. >> >> I tested GRML under VirtualBox, and it was pretty easy to get Speakup >> running (just entering the commands modprobe speakup_soft and then >> espeakup as I believe I read somewhere on this list). >> >> I still have a lot to learn as far as the command-line goes, but I think >> that it is the better route for me. I used to rely heavily on a screen >> magnification, and I would use ADRIANE Knoppix with the Compiz >> magnifier, which all worked very well. But not all computers which I >> work on have 3D acceleration support, and I am beginning to work pretty >> quickly in the command-line. It seems like I can get things done a lot >> more quickly in a CLI environment than I can via a GUI. >> >> So, other than GRML and ADRIANE Knoppix, is there anything else >> available with Speakup support which could be used as a technician's >> tool? >> >> I think taht GRML will work great. I just am curious as to whether or >> not there are other options because I like to tinker and test sometimes. >> >> Thanks for all fo the replies. >> On 01/18/2012 05:30 PM, Glenn wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I found a good Debian app for changing windows passwords, I think it is >>> something like: >>> cnpwd >>> I can find it for you if you are not able to locate it. >>> It works well. >>> Glenn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Robert cole" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Speakup enabled Distros for Blind Technicians >>> >>> >>> thanks for all of the replies. >>> >>> I downloaded GRML, and I will try it out more in-depth soon. >>> >>> I just need something which I can use to work on Windows or Linux >>> computer systems (more often Windows based systems). One example would >>> be that of backing up data on a system with a broken Windows >>> installation or doing something like virus scanning or password >>> restoration GRML seems like it would be a great candidate. >>> >>> On 01/17/2012 08:54 AM, John Heim wrote: >>>> I recently wrote a wiki entry on how to use the accessibility features >>>> of the latest grml release. You can find it here: >>>> http://wiki.iavit.org/index.php/Accessing_grml >>>> >>>> I would also recommend that you check out vinux. Grml is a live CD >>>> designed to be used for rescuing computers. Vinux is a ubuntu fork >>>> with speech enabled by default. They're not really competitors. >>>> >>>> PS: The wiki in the URL above is for the International Association of >>>> Visually Impaired Technologists. If you want to give something back to >>>> the blind community, consider writing some wiki entries and sharing >>>> your knowledge. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert cole" >>>> To: "Speakup List" >>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 3:31 PM >>>> Subject: Speakup enabled Distros for Blind Technicians >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, everyone. >>>>> >>>>> I do a lot of PC repair work for different people (friends, family, >>>>> etc), and I was wondering if there are any live Linux distributions >>>>> which are Speakup-enabled that would aid me in this task. The only >>>>> one that comes to mind right now is ADRIANE Knoppix, but I believe it >>>>> makes use of Orca. >>>>> >>>>> I don't really need a GUI, although it can be helpful at times, but I >>>>> am just curious to see if there is anyone else on the list who knows >>>>> of any distros for this sort of task that could be run from a CD or >>>>> USB key that have Speakup readily available. >>>>> >>>>> I am still a bit new to screen reading software, but it is sure >>>>> making my life much easier. What little vision I have seems to get >>>>> much more easily strained nowadays. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any input. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Speakup mailing list >>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >