From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id DC35D1EF838; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail0131.smtp25.com (mail0131.smtp25.com [75.126.84.131]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5809F1EF831 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs.covici.com (d-out-001.smtp25.com [67.228.158.174] (may be forged)) by d-out-001.smtp25.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s99CvoNV030261 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:57:50 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.9/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s99CvnkF030568; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:57:49 -0400 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup In-reply-to: <20141009123246.GF1044@opera.rednote.net> References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> <54359B9E.10203@verizon.net> <5435AE9F.1090306@math.wisc.edu> <5435B544.2090907@math.wisc.edu> <20141009123246.GF1044@opera.rednote.net> Comments: In-reply-to Janina Sajka message dated "Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:32:46 -0400." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:57:49 -0400 Message-ID: <30566.1412859469@ccs.covici.com> From: covici@ccs.covici.com X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: d-out-001.smtp25.com-s99CvoNV030261 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Cc: Glenn X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:58:00 -0000 I have to agree, we need console access, not just a terminal in the gui. Even if we write speech dispatcher drivers for more synths, how would speakup work then if they get rid of this interface? Janina Sajka wrote: > John G. Heim writes: > > You can switch to a character user interface and use speakup even after > > starting the graphical user interface. But as I said, I don't consider that > > a key part of the linux accessibility infrastructure. > > > I have to disagree strongly, John. > > But, let me phrase my disagreement this way, is the console a key part > of Linux? Or shall we dump the console entirely in favor of a terminal > in the gui? > > If the answer is that the console needs to stay, then we need console > based a11y. > > Speaking for myself, I still spend most of my time in the console. I > don't care for Thunderbird. And, while I routinely use Firefox, I still > use Lynx more. I could go on, but I think I've made my point. > > BTW: I also conduct most of my business phone calls from a Linux CLI SIP > client because this gives me far better latency and far better audio > quality than the best cell phone out there. > > Just two of my BSD cents. > > Janina > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com