From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate.ufw2.com([216.163.19.158]) (4572 bytes) by braille.uwo.ca via smail with P:esmtp/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:02:31 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 built 1999-Sep-5) Received: from [216.163.21.20] by gate.ufw2.com for speakup@braille.uwo.ca id UAA25736; Wed Oct 25 20:02:34 2000 Received: from hardb ([216.163.21.59]) by mail.ufw2.com (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA00680 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:03:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001025200308.007de100@mail.ufw2.com> X-Sender: bharding@mail.ufw2.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:03:08 -0500 Subject: Re: which prebuilt linux boxes seem to work best? In-Reply-To: <20001025180730.B642@gotss.eu.org> References: <3.0.6.32.20001023210047.007d4a90@mail.ufw2.com> <3.0.6.32.20001023210047.007d4a90@mail.ufw2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca From: Brent Harding List-Id: In what way would one install linux on a box like this, serial console is probably quite usefull, (if I could use it with a parallel to serial converter with a dectalk express connected to my laptop's real serial port). Would one just put in the hp supplied CD and do the install by serial or dialin? At 06:07 PM 10/25/00 +1100, you wrote: >My hp9000 model 816 has _no_ monitor it has a serial port. It also has the >ability for a remote dialin port where you can connect a modem. No keyboard or >screen there; I have an hp terminal that comes with it to control it or a pc. >Now to find a copy of hp/ux for a model 816 :-) Once linux boots we'll try >speakup on the hpux :-) >On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:00:47PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: >> Oh, why then, do they claim to use A/b switches to decide which machine >> they're controlling? I'm not fond of that idea either, but if I have to >> deal with it, because their firewall secures access to that level, which >> I'm not sure it would, it'd be inefficient to do things that way. If >> there's no capability of connecting screens or keyboards, what would be >> used to set it up initially, or reinstall if something goes wrong? Do these >> machines usually have a program that you run across the network that works >> no matter what? >> I suppose if I can do most stuff remotely, I could just set up one speakup >> enabled linux box to control all others with. >> At 07:53 AM 10/23/00 -0500, you wrote: >> >I think Geoff has pointed out the way you will access any machines you >> >need to. It is quite rare for console access to a server that is cranking >> >away. In fact my business relies on two AIX (Unix varient) machines. There >> >are only two operations done at console. >> > >> >The first is tape backup. But really it is more a matter of checking that >> >files really did backup and putting in the next day's tapes. The other is >> >that if building power goes out, someone goes to the server room to ensure >> >all shuts down orderly. Otherwise things are done remotely. In fact, there >> >are some who consider doing anything locally on a server that could be >> >done safely remotely to be a security transgression. Also, there are many >> >servers out there with no keyboard or monitor connected. (And a few with >> >no video to connect a monitor.) The only operation done at the console is >> >hitting the power switch. >> > >> >If one is trying to prepare for a job they hope for, I would recomend >> >learning all one can about administering a box. I would spend almost no >> >time wondering about console access. It is just not really needed in the >> >business world. Console access is something to worry about when you are >> >competing for the boss' job. Not on the first level admin job. >> > >> >======= >> >Kirk Wood >> >Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net >> > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >-- >-- >Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.eu.org >Alternates: kerry@emusys.com.au kerry@gotss.spice.net.au or khoath@lis.net.au >ICQ UIN: 62823451 > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >