From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gate.ufw2.com([216.163.19.158]) (5423 bytes) by braille.uwo.ca via smail with P:esmtp/D:aliases/T:pipe (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:34:27 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 built 1999-Sep-5) Received: from [216.163.21.20] by gate.ufw2.com for speakup@braille.uwo.ca id WAA05503; Fri Sep 29 22:34:30 2000 Received: from hardb ([216.163.21.59]) by mail.ufw2.com (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA02357 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:34:41 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000929224320.007c5100@mail.ufw2.com> X-Sender: bharding@mail.ufw2.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:43:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Distro discusion In-Reply-To: <005c01c029ca$c315eae0$f83b9ed8@wang> References: <3.0.6.32.20000927220235.007ba6c0@mail.ufw2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca From: Brent Harding List-Id: Can this be done by telnet if it has to be? At 08:41 PM 9/28/00 -0700, you wrote: >Absolutely. You will just use http or FTP option to do that. >Vic > >******* ******* ******* >have you thought of visiting Cybertsar's Internet Kingdom? It is still >alive! >Here is the URL: >http://nimbus.ocis.temple.edu/~vtsaran/ >******* ******* ******* >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brent Harding" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:02 PM >Subject: Re: Distro discusion > > >> Wow, when I get a decent network connection, redhat it'll be. Could a >> redhat 55.2 box be updated to 6.2 this way? >> At 06:05 PM 9/27/00 -0700, you wrote: >> > >> >For those who would like to know, Redhat offers a similar utility to >> >Debian's update. Redhat calls it rpmfind. You specify a word on the >command >> >line and rpmfind wills earch the database for it, if it finds, it tells >you >> >allthe dependences, you just hit "download all" option. >> >Best, >> >Vic >> >******* ******* ******* >> >have you thought of visiting Cybertsar's Internet Kingdom? It is still >> >alive! >> >Here is the URL: >> >http://nimbus.ocis.temple.edu/~vtsaran/ >> >******* ******* ******* >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Gene Collins" >> >To: >> >Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:24 AM >> >Subject: Re: Distro discusion >> > >> > >> >> Kirk, http://www.linuxdoc.org/ is your documentation friend! There are >> >> very explicit howtos out there for hardware and various software. >> >> Debian also follows the Sys V. init style. The thing I find most >> >> helpful about Debian is that the apt-get installation program manages >> >> software dependentcies for you very nicely. If you upgrade gcc for >> >> example, apt-get will also upgrade the appropriate libraries. >> >> >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> >Personally, the biggest thing that I believe is important on a >> >> >distribution is good documentation on where files are placed. Having >said >> >> >that, I think it is past time for the distributions to discuss this >and >> >> >commit to following a standard (or two). Certainly there will be >> >> >differences in such things as init scripts. After all Slackware uses a >> >BSD >> >> >style init (more or less) while RedHat uses a SystemV ini (more or >less). >> >> > >> >> >There are advantages to both of them, and that isn't the point. The >thing >> >> >is that RedHat does place some config files in strange places. If >there >> >> >was one place to put a given file it would make Linux overall >> >> >stronger. There could still be room for each to do its thing for >> >> >improvement. (For instance once you say that all init scripts will >reside >> >> >in rc.d you can choose to follow the redhat method of a directory for >> >each >> >> >run level and one for the actual scripts. Or you could decide to place >> >> >them all in the /etc/rc.d dir.) >> >> > >> >> >Actually, documentation is the biggest weakness I see in Linux. The >fact >> >> >is that much of the documentation is great if you already know what >your >> >> >doing. Some of it is great, and some is lousy. Sometimes knowing whre >to >> >> >look though can be a major task in the first place. One master >document >> >> >giving direction on where to look for all network functions would be >> >> >nice. One covering all disk subsystems would also go a long way. >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >Kirk Wood >> >> >Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net >> >> >------------------ >> >> > >> >> >Seek simplicity -- and distrust it. >> >> > Alfred North Whitehead >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >> >Speakup mailing list >> >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Speakup mailing list >> >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >