From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au [203.161.124.50]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E53D10A21 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705877D897 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:59:20 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au Received: from smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iUaZhaDWpmI5 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:59:18 +0800 (WST) Received: from gotss1.gotss.net (203.161.101.89.static.amnet.net.au [203.161.101.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp1.wa.amnet.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862167D7B2 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:59:17 +0800 (WST) Received: from bouncy.gotss.net ([192.168.24.37] helo=bouncy) by gotss1.gotss.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MBHPP-0000Ya-0l for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:59:15 +0800 Message-ID: <24EAD034CF8042ADBD11A2C542421830@bouncy> From: "Kerry Hoath" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <5D1286E147AA4F92B17EDF969017C6CF@tdsdev><20090531185400.GB10058@localhost.localdomain><20090531192320.GA25139@linux1><20090531195859.GA5899@grml><036101c9e24a$63683200$6400a8c0@quan> <054a01c9e2c4$438f6c30$6400a8c0@quan> Subject: Re: speakup using different synths with software speech? Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:59:16 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:59:23 -0000 One of the things that people should remember is all the comercial speech generation algorythms have patents on them which prevent redistribution. this is why someone could not just clone eloquence dectalk or whatever. Mbrola has good voice quality, and is far more human sounding than espeak although it is tricky to set up. Festival isn't bad but also requires speech dispatcher. Licenses of festival and mbrola are not gpl at least they aren't for the voices anyway. I'm sure Jonathan duddington (sorry if I can't spell your name mate) would accept any constructive help in improving how his speech synthesizer sounds, especially to make it more human. Regards, Kerry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Homuth" To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:21 PM Subject: RE: speakup using different synths with software speech? Thanks for that information, as much as it doesn't really answer the question except to say if you want improvement, use another synth. Is that to mean we won't be seeing any such improvements with Espeak? -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Willem van der Walt Sent: June 1, 2009 3:38 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: speakup using different synths with software speech? There is a way to use mbrola voices with espeak. It is more human-sounding, but getting used to espeak standard voice does not take long. Regards, Willem On Sun, 31 May 2009, James Homuth wrote: > Somewhat related, what's the likelyhood of Espeak voices getting > improvements to be more... I'm not sure what the word for it is, other > than human-sounding? That's been one of my main sticking points for > why I'm still with Windows on my primary machine; that, plus I've not > until now had time to test the accessibility of my particular > preferred distribution. I did hear a demonstration a while back of a > version of Espeak, and while I could definitely get used to it, I > think I'd like it a whole lot better if it didn't sound quite as > robotic. I'm not saying it should equal eloquence by any means, but > the demo I heard kind of reminded me of the old Echo synths used on > the early Apple computers. Good, but could be better, IMHO. Anyway, > this was more a rambling/curiosity thing and by no means an attempt at > criticism as I've not actually gotten it running locally yet, so for all I know my version of Espeak could already be improved over the demo I heard. > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Hermann > Sent: May 31, 2009 3:59 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: speakup using different synths with software speech? > > am So 31. Mai 2009 um 21:31:02 schrieb William Hubbs : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Tyler, > > > > I recommend getting used to espeak. The version of eloquence on > > linux is old, buggy, and they are not planning to upgrade it. > > > He can look here: > http://voxin.oralux.net/index.php#main > I've bought a rather new version there a few months ago. > Works pretty well, but to use it with Speakup Speech-Dispatcher is required. > Note: Maybe the Emacspeak-server works as well; I remember having seen > something in the install script. > Hermann > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. 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