From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id A60F01C2DE7; Thu, 26 Mar 2020 00:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gregn.net header.i=@gregn.net header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=T3aZ4RPv; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from vserver.gregn.net (vserver.gregn.net [174.136.110.154]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2658B1C2C76 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2020 00:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vbox.gregn.net (unknown [172.58.38.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vserver.gregn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45A34239A for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:40:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=gregn.net; s=default; t=1585197613; bh=hLl0/zp8GeFzJ8GoqU29u3MMx0QdAQXGD3qozDnOiC4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=T3aZ4RPvroTt8sZqxvqPfq3Rz/++bfxajk4a+ZA9Dg24XfeIm/QFwukWqV3mAPbwL //odhUUZRnI/vCJa4M2tNNw4qHnErm1hR9noIpvKNKSP4k4D0AAXgLFimIx1PoAgy1 ekIz04kycq7BdAAnmLCoQsG6nOJsbvdJ9QXCx/Cfb4rytvtcNC82bdCaOofAghYGXp WMSe9c3xRIZ/ZJALxSXmh9Q080EojT5m0F6Lf195tmIVujPGktDnXdoMgvPoKaEnU3 FDhCEbPhn0DU9grNmUBDUhIgHxgBXlVRt4tsMvCgVya4/NY8Jx4aCu0C69Q4Zm64+y R4qTxqJJ08vHg== Received: from greg by vbox.gregn.net with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jHKI9-0001gl-Vv for speakup@linux-speakup.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:38:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:38:53 -0700 From: Gregory Nowak To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: [raspberry-vi] A bit off topic, Speakup and Debian Stretch-Buster (fwd) Message-ID: <20200326043853.GA6417@gregn.net> References: <20200322210257.zqxh5jp7fo64hp36@function> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.2 at vserver X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 04:39:07 -0000 On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 07:59:11PM -0600, mail wrote: > I also noticed that there is not aninstallation option for brltty. > There is not even an option for a hardware synthizer with speakup. Sounds like you didn't read the debian installation manual, or didn't look at wiki.debian.org/accessibility. In the case of a USB braille display, brltty detects it automatically. In the case of serial displays, the debian installation manual describes how to pass the appropriate options to brltty when starting the installer. As far as speakup hardware synthesizers, they're also supported. You need to press tab, space, and type speakup.synth=xxx at the boot prompt, where xxx is speakup's designation for your synthesizer. > > Can it be that some installer person has decided to combine all > accessibility drivers into one installation option and one > kernel, whether they work together or not? Yes, everything is together in one kernel, and I can assure you they do all work together, brltty, hardware synthesizers, and all. > > It occurs to me that a hung kernel stuck issuing an error message > like that might stop the whole system from talking, > Since brltty is not a module, I cannot even use > brltty.blacklist=yes. You'll need to be more specific. > > Even if this is not related, can someone figure out how to > get it fixed. You'll need to provide enough details to reproduce the problem. What did you do to make it happen exactly. > > How about taking brltty completely out of the kernel and make the > brltty users make their own kernels, like the speakup users had to do before we learned to work with the kernel, and play nice. Brltty isn't in the kernel, it is entirely in user space as far as I know. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org