From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id AA4901C43CE; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 04:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr (hera.aquilenet.fr [185.233.100.1]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42EEB1C43C6 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 04:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEC72298; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:35:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RurfV05BQV-o; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:35:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from function (dhcp-13-201.lip.ens-lyon.fr [140.77.13.201]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFF53217A; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:35:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from samy by function with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hJDNa-0004Z0-5h; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:35:46 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 10:35:46 +0200 From: Samuel Thibault To: Didier Spaier Cc: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org, speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: Debian Buster installer and speech issues Message-ID: <20190424083546.uoyxd3wcxx3dn7re@function> Mail-Followup-To: Didier Spaier , debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org, speakup@linux-speakup.org References: <20190423162245.bufpxdcjjmuh6bae@function> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: I am not organized User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:35:50 -0000 Didier Spaier, le mer. 24 avril 2019 12:20:08 +0200, a ecrit: > On 23/04/2019 23:40, Didier Spaier wrote: > > On bare metal, no luck: the installer could not detect > > my sound card, so no speech in the installer. > > > > It made 9 unsuccessful attempts, told it would tried > > other cards, seemed to gave up. What do you mean by "told it would tried other cards"? What _exactly_ did it write? Otherwise I'm not sure what exactly you refer to, that's how a way for me to be able to debug anything. > > I have only one sound card. > > > > That's weird as I have no issue with Slint's installer, > > also using espeakup. > > My assumption is that' there is an issue with S38espeakup. > > If I understand well, you modified it to wait that > /sys/class/sound/card*/id be populated. Yes, because as commented there it seems that the Buster audio drivers take _ages_ to initialize... > I thought, maybe there's an issue with this modification. Possibly, but I need precise information to be able to guess what is going wrong. Please really post what is asked on https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility from *within the installer* because that is what the script uses. The alsa-info output from an installed system can be useful, but much less than the precise information of what is _actually_ happening. > PS FYI I attach the script used for card detection in the > current Slint installer. Obviously it is a modification of > S38espeakup (but a former version). And it'll just fail the same way as Buster in case Slint happens to meet the same driver initialization time. Samuel