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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 05:02:13 -0000 Janina, In a brief look my wife found quite a surprising number of boards withISA slots, but as you say the best to be found is a pentium 5 celeron dual core 3.2 GHZ for I think $350.00 or so. Considering that as of now you've gotta run an ancient kernel it doesn't seem a reasonable venture Hope Josh can use at least the serial DTLKs. Tom Fowle On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 01:56:05AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > Thanks, Tom. That's a great suggestion I hadn't considered. > > I know Josh, so will simply take the opportunity to catch up. > > PS: This thread got me wishing I could put that old ISA Doubletalk back > into service. So, I went looking for motherboards that support ISA > slots, but found nothing newer than some supporting Celeron CPUs. Pretty > ancient. > > Janina > > Tom Fowle writes: > > Janina, > > It would be hard to find a purpose for the ISA cards I suppose, I have a > > spare as well as two serial units. > > > > However the serial units can be very handy for folks doing custom embedded > > systems arduino's etc. > > > > You might drop Josh Miele at Smith-Kettlewell a note see if anybody there > > might want them.Depending on how much trouble you want to take, I seem to > > recall there is a list somewhere to exchange out dated access gear. > > Tom Fowle > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 10:32:26AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > I can't ship an entire machine, but I have several internal Doubletalk > > > cards, as well as an external serial port interfacing Doubletalk, and a > > > serial or USB interfacing Tripletalk I would be able to donate. The > > > internal cards are ISA, though. While it's not impossible to get a board > > > with ISA slots, it's pretty rare and certainly not consumer hardware > > > anylonger. > > > > > > These old devices are about to get trashed, so if anyone wants them, let > > > me know asap. > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > Gregory Nowak writes: > > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:39:55PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > Okash Khawaja, le ven. 15 mars 2019 10:57:35 +0000, a ecrit: > > > > > > 1. What are our options for internal synths which still use direct > > > > > > communication with hardware: acntpc, decpc, dtlk and keypc? > > > > > > > > > > I was thinking they could just remain in staging. The corresponding > > > > > hardware is very difficult to make work nowadays (typically ISA cards), > > > > > so I don't think it is a problem that they are not in mainline. > > > > > > > > I'd just like to chime in here, and say that at least myself, and one > > > > more person on this list are still using a DoubleTalk PC card (dtlk > > > > driver). While I understand the two of us are in the minority, it > > > > would be appreciated if these cards could be made to work once again > > > > with newer kernels. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, shipping a PC within the U.S. is quite expensive, never > > > > mind shipping one from the U.S. to the U.K. Since this hardware is > > > > also rare as Samuel points out, I admit parting with that machine to > > > > ship it would be a last resort option for me. Getting into linux > > > > development is on my to do list, so maybe I'll resolve this myself one > > > > day if I'm still using the DoubleTalk card by that time. > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > web site: http://www.gregn.net > > > > gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc > > > > skype: gregn1 > > > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > > > If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka > > > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup