From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1D4DA1EFB87; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=rednote.net header.i=@rednote.net header.b="LhuVk4ZA"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from opera.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [IPv6:2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe70:e783]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FE581EFB62 for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rednote.net (localhost [IPv6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w62GD6Tf005172 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 16:13:07 GMT DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 opera.rednote.net w62GD6Tf005172 Authentication-Results: opera.rednote.net; dmarc=pass (p=reject dis=none) header.from=rednote.net Authentication-Results: opera.rednote.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=janina@rednote.net DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 opera.rednote.net w62GD6Tf005172 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=rednote.net; s=default; t=1530547987; bh=/Twv7O+g7LHuBVi40O1wQp4UiiNoQf1fOEItZltJzac=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=LhuVk4ZAcH/viCa6modJCNK9d1CLxoAvMdNSGxBiPwzGd270isVXGcG2ztGK5x6jV O7VJ9z5An9fUada82L4AwWVZL/fQPIwU79PnhX26t+uW0cuRq3dovtdrcjFF+TikPk KjwHBrwKLL3ci/D6Vd8GbAszupnlun26Wbh93tl8= Received: (from janina@localhost) by rednote.net (8.15.2/8.14.6/Submit) id w62GD6e9005171 for speakup@linux-speakup.org; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:13:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:13:06 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: Too much of a Good Thing is Solved. Message-ID: <20180702161306.GA4802@rednote.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 4.16.16-300.fc28.x86_64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:13:12 -0000 Hi, Martin: What you describe below is today's way, afaik. There's just one thing to add, imo ... Should you ever find yourself needing to give root password for system maintanance, you can still do: mod probe speakup_soft espeakup Sooner or later, one is likely to need that level of access! When this happens, I have found it best to reboot after performing system maintanance, rather than proceed booting via Ctrl-D, as the audio environment isn't necessarily properly configured. Just my experience. I would also add that I'm still solidly an alsa user for my machine with multiple sound cards. I'm perfectly happy to have pa anywhere, as long as I can control the situation with alsa. My fundamental problem with pa seems to be it's lack of any concept of managing at the sound card level. I'm very much about routing various specific audio outputs to specific cards, so that's a deal breaker for me. Janina martin McCormick writes: > I thought I knew too much. The proper systemd way to make > speakup stop is > sudo systemctl stop espeakup > and it stops. Starting it is the same command except one uses > start and it restarts as if nothing ever happened. I was trying > an older command that may have worked back in the day but isn't > necessary now. > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa