From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 22D2C1EF834; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [IPv6:2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe70:e783]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1F0A1EF837 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:28:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.8/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s99KS4cJ012954 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:28:04 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.8/8.14.6/Submit) id s99KS446012953; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:28:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: opera.rednote.net: janina set sender to janina@rednote.net using -f Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:28:04 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: tyler@tysdomain.com, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story Message-ID: <20141009202804.GN1044@opera.rednote.net> References: <86a956i23h.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> <20141009125200.GI1044@opera.rednote.net> <86ppe1gyed.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> <543691D1.9050000@tysdomain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <543691D1.9050000@tysdomain.com> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 3.16.3-200.fc20.x86_64 X-PGP-Key: http://rednote.net/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:28:33 -0000 I've seen Speakup hang the boot. I've seen kernel panics around Speakup. I've never seen Speakup trash the file system, which I think is what's being said here. Janina Littlefield, Tyler writes: > This whole story sounds like it needs another couple of bears to make it all > interesting. So speakup crashed the kernel. I've had issues, but apart from > known bugs I've never seen speakup panic the kernel all the time. Speakup > caused a system to crash? Perhaps. People should also backup their work. > On 10/9/2014 9:34 AM, Deedra Waters wrote: > >Janina, > > > >speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a > >monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with speakup. > > > >As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to > >begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i was > >helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash. > > > >Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to begin > >with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to > >begin with. > > > >I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it > >wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes > >it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes > >down the whole box. > > > > > > > -- > Take care, > Ty > http://tds-solutions.net > He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/