From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1971D1EF781; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rockinghorse.reisers.us (71-208-102-245.hlrn.qwest.net [71.208.102.245]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13FE1EF6F0 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [66.228.34.147]) by rockinghorse.reisers.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DD9912E105 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 14:18:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.8/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s99KH28o012717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:17:02 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.8/8.14.6/Submit) id s99KH2j5012716 for speakup@linux-speakup.org; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:17:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: opera.rednote.net: janina set sender to janina@rednote.net using -f Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:17:02 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup Message-ID: <20141009201702.GL1044@opera.rednote.net> References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> <54359B9E.10203@verizon.net> <5435AE9F.1090306@math.wisc.edu> <87oatm40zz.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87oatm40zz.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 3.16.3-200.fc20.x86_64 X-PGP-Key: http://rednote.net/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 20:18:11 -0000 Speakup in an initramfs? I love it. Let's remember that technology will continue to bmove, and we should think creatively about how to do equivalents of Speakup in an initramfs going forward. What about a full computer on a USB stick? Boot the stick then start the main machine drive as a vm. Am I crazy? I think not. I suspect there are other opportunities, too. Janina Chris Brannon writes: > "John G. Heim" writes: > > > Yeah, if you're a linux sysadmin, hardware speech is not some luxury > > you can do without. > > Well, if the Linux console moves into user space, this doesn't have mean the > end of hardware speech. > Perhaps the way forward is through initramfs? As a proof of concept, I > built one that had the Speakup modules, audio libraries, and espeakup. > I had *software* speech running from the initramfs. > It was a bit difficult to build it, because I had to figure out all of > the dependencies and add them. But it worked. > Now, if you're just doing hardware speech, things are going to be much > less complicated, and it should definitely be possible to have it long > before the root partition is mounted, even if the Linux console code > ends up migrating to userspace. > > -- Chris > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/