From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C14E31EF82D; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [IPv6:2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe70:e783]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE0A91EF7AF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.8/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s99CWkTG001384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:32:46 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.8/8.14.6/Submit) id s99CWkp1001383; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:32:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: opera.rednote.net: janina set sender to janina@rednote.net using -f Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:32:46 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup Message-ID: <20141009123246.GF1044@opera.rednote.net> References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> <54359B9E.10203@verizon.net> <5435AE9F.1090306@math.wisc.edu> <5435B544.2090907@math.wisc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5435B544.2090907@math.wisc.edu> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 3.16.3-200.fc20.x86_64 X-PGP-Key: http://rednote.net/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Cc: Glenn X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:32:50 -0000 John G. Heim writes: > You can switch to a character user interface and use speakup even after > starting the graphical user interface. But as I said, I don't consider that > a key part of the linux accessibility infrastructure. I have to disagree strongly, John. But, let me phrase my disagreement this way, is the console a key part of Linux? Or shall we dump the console entirely in favor of a terminal in the gui? If the answer is that the console needs to stay, then we need console based a11y. Speaking for myself, I still spend most of my time in the console. I don't care for Thunderbird. And, while I routinely use Firefox, I still use Lynx more. I could go on, but I think I've made my point. BTW: I also conduct most of my business phone calls from a Linux CLI SIP client because this gives me far better latency and far better audio quality than the best cell phone out there. Just two of my BSD cents. Janina