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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 18:36:47 -0000 Hi, Grandon: First, let me clear up what I think may be a misperception. We should not assume that this product is unprofitable for its various owners. In fact, it is precisely my dealings with a commercial wholesaler, the legal basis behind TTSyinth, that makes me understand these voices continue to generate solid revenue. Before they would work with me on a contract for just a few thousand licenses, friends of Linux accessibility advocated that this was important. Usually, their contracts involve tens of thousands of license seats. You should also know that I explored the prospect of recompiling to 64-bit and to newer libc++. This was not dismissed. I was simply asked how many licenses I was prepared to buy should this be done. In other words, give us enough money, and we'll do it. Frankly, nothing in my experience gives me any reason to believe that this product could be wrested from the proprietary domain anytime soon. These guys have lots of commercial customers. AT hardly rates as a market share. Janina Brandon McGinty-Carroll writes: > Janina and list, > I would appreciate a list of any companies of names you know who are associated with this incarnation of IBMTTS. > It's worth a shot to see if we can contact one or all of these entities; doing nothing, as we (read that "me") have seen with speakup leads to a buggered situation. > Janina, didn't you work with these folks a while back distributing TTSynth? Or was that someone else... > Thanks for your help. > > Sincerely, > Brandon McGinty-Caroll > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:35:24AM +1000, Jason White wrote: > > Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Not lost. Problem is that it has a lot of owners, i.e. > > > people/corporations who own a piece of it. Getting a rebuild, especially > > > with enhancements, would take a firm of lawyers just to get the project > > > started. > > > > There might be lawyers associated with the free/open-source software community > > who would work on this if it could lead to the release of the code. However, > > any one of the aforementioned people/corporations could just say "no", or > > demand royalties. > > > > This is one way in which proprietary software dies, unfortunately. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Email: janina@rednote.net Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/