From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bmcginty.hopto.org (5.subnet-72-18-98.ellijay.com [72.18.98.5]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA0751EF6A8 for ; Thu, 9 May 2013 15:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bmcginty.hopto.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D21A62482F9; Thu, 9 May 2013 15:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 15:37:44 -0400 From: Brandon McGinty-Carroll To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Voxin was: Re: Switching to Linux Message-ID: <20130509193744.GJ2324@bmcginty.hopto.org> References: <8021.1367479350@ccs.covici.com> <518A5508.8020502@gmail.com> <518A6931.6070806@math.wisc.edu> <25752.1368029641@ccs.covici.com> <518A9206.8090008@math.wisc.edu> <518B4FCB.6090003@baechler.net> <518BAC38.8060708@math.wisc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <518BAC38.8060708@math.wisc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 19:37:49 -0000 As I recall, voxen requires /dev/dsp or somesuch ancient sound API. Is this no longer correct? Brandon McGinty-Carroll On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 09:01:28AM -0500, John G. Heim wrote: > All I did was to do a talking install the current debian stable. > Orca came up talking on the login screen when I rebooted after > finishing the install. > > Some recommendations: > 1. Go with debian stable. > 2. Consider doing a dist upgrade to stable backports. This gets you > a 3.2 kernel. > 3. Use firefox and thunderbird from mozilla on sourceforge. Do not > use the equivalent debian packages. > 4. Gedit is more than adequate as a replacement for notepad. > 5. Consider buying voxin. Voxin is eloquence for linux. You get the > same voice as jaws. It costs $6 from the oralux project. (Google > it.) Voxin may not be as stable as espeak but I like the voice much > more. > > > > > > On 05/09/13 02:27, Tony Baechler wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA256 > > > >What changes did you have to make to your daily routine when you made the > >switch? I already use Firefox and Thunderbird here, but I'm still > >primarily on XP. I use my Linux server daily, but I purposely haven't put > >X on it. I have a small 10 GB installation of Debian unstable with X and > >experimental, but Orca fails to work, or at least I don't have speech when > >I try to start it. Speakup, of course, works great. I pretty much had > >the same bad experiences with Orca as other people and I didn't try to do > >anything fancy. In fact, Vinux crashed almost constantly in Orca but not > >Speakup. I had to use a Speakup console to kill my Orca session and > >reboot. I read on the Debian accessibility list to enable experimental to > >bring in the latest Orca improvements, but it didn't seem to help. If > >anything, it made things worse as I had a constant stream of broken > >packages. Now that Wheezy is out, I'll try again one of these days > >soon-ish. I'm not worried about moving my profiles over from Windows, but > >I'm more wondering about changes made from an accessibility point of view. > > In other words, if someone with little to no Linux experience (not me, > >but someone else) wanted to make the full-time switch to Orca, how well > >could it be done and what adjustments would they have to make compared to > >doing things the Windows way? > > > >On 5/8/2013 10:57 AM, John G. Heim wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>Huh, you're the second person in this thread to say that about orca. > >>But I just decided to switch to linux full time a few months ago and it > >>was pretty much a breeze. I had been using that other operating system > >>too but almost all the end users I support use linux (all good > >>mathematicians do). So I felt I was cheating by not using linux. But I > >>have had little to no trouble switching to linux with orca. I use > >>thunderbird & firefox constantly. It's not quite as good as > >>Windows/jaws but honestly, I made the transition fairly easily. > >> > >>I am really shocked to hear all these complaints about orca. Not to > >>doubt you. It's just that it doesn't jibe with my experience at all. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) > >Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > > >iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRi0/LAAoJEPrAuJWnLe0y+yMP/RxUIuVbYrTv8cGcEo1aNMEj > >g2qstErfKEtEZKUapAryVr/QfVXdpVt10bPdynFqScKKKQfjMqTmP3CkoCVO02Ao > >BGhDnReuc4BI/DWuDnqJYayUusvjINnII47w4cjbfbLY+OEwmOajGlnvTLwIB6p5 > >+VVoCKdzIbTBrDk08lCSso24TToNfmVYUMBUDT8mBnRwGNjN182eDVPWy8PAvIUK > >QdkTOr1X1RMnn+6JsoHybRr3Owo55ILnL+XDQLEnUe1f5aGlrVXT9sdLPcCwa/uH > >Ff61apGsMOX20dZ2DiB4U8aiTuU0dV81eTywFt1UZmu8dGLsEGnhvHRCoNEl0JEN > >XwGH61/DdfpXnlBeusHG7quq2mTjPEy4dMpxaDoaVDVVVOf65TnVBcBBUupxZ44W > >ZEY/AgbJ5eOFwd8ZZouiVNIQt+BX7gRQ5wVjHwEXlx6d3kNVEsxKIVxhx24+gpXx > >Ro5Ci3fUoX/TCK3JjznxnkM7ZVPoom5B1s5ZEjEwfbVNBkOp7G6zOAeFO8N7EyRS > >V8upZXTkL+GWi2vT4bfyYz14yo1Vge22OoFXuPc5nftrjvKcKtzuw5QleYct3MYT > >UbMbZ0mmKSpVG58P7r6gQljOT0eWCq5z8wLXPzNmCcHAt8Tf9604upZClz7axGnT > >0Kq+DEY+LDiEBVmqsdKs > >=Ghdw > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@linux-speakup.org > >http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > --- > John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim@math.wisc.edu > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup