From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lothlorien.nfbcal.org (ns.NFBCAL.ORG [157.22.230.125]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F8BC1A06A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lothlorien.nfbcal.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lothlorien.nfbcal.org (8.14.1/8.14.1-NFBNETBSD) with ESMTP id q8HHFdua025140 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lothlorien.nfbcal.org Received: (from buhrow@localhost) by lothlorien.nfbcal.org (8.14.1/8.12.11) id q8HHFdLV019169; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <201209171715.q8HHFdLV019169@lothlorien.nfbcal.org> From: Brian Buhrow Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:15:39 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(4.pl1)+dynamic 20000103) To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: RE: Speakup history lesson, was Re: speakup todo? X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (lothlorien.nfbcal.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: buhrow@nfbcal.org X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:15:40 -0000 hello. Just as a followup to Kirk and others, let me say that while I agree the keymap issue is important in that having the screen reader emulate the keystrokes one already knows for the screen reader one came from, the most important issue is whether or not Speakup's key map can be easily modified, and that the documentation contains example key maps. For example, I too came from a DOS based screen reader, Flipper, to be precise. Yasr, which is the screen reader I use today, has a very flexible key mapping system which permitted me to write a keymap that emulates Flipper's commands in about 2 hours. I didn't emulate every stroke, but the ones I use on a daily basis are the ones I emulated, and it enabled me to become just as efficient with Yasr as I was with Flipper in no time. I suspect Kirk and the others who contributed to Speakup know this, and while I don't use Speakup on a daily basis, my brushes with it leave me with the impression that it does, in fact, have a flexible key mapping system and that one does not need to be a programmer to write the keymaps for it. If I'm right, then may I echo Kirk's suggestion that those who want a JFW key map, write one, and get it included as an alternative configuration file in the distribution. If Kirk is willing, and he seems to be, then there's no problem geting it included moving forward. Just my 2 cents. -Brian