From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vw0-f42.google.com (mail-vw0-f42.google.com [209.85.212.42]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5BFC1A12F for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by vwl1 with SMTP id 1so8358690vwl.29 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:36:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=nNIXmz/n6QrcQ/GjI6WlkYU7j99QyMSi5CQEVciMnS0=; b=xXrbyuBexwgGRfnJgSAkqPPB9tYvtGYO7arGJKqqKIfbgXqHRp6ir5MiI5pIl4KIzP R0YfNDFxxIjjV72tgysHhpcgvjlgulSAbzLUG5bJmB42ubyou2S+DgyzZZMM53CEW/sP ysuwAL7gtzdNZMNN7Nulm548JO7SLFCI9p8Gk= Received: by 10.52.97.131 with SMTP id ea3mr8381395vdb.443.1317180973909; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hittsjunk.net (195.sub-166-248-65.myvzw.com. [166.248.65.195]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e7sm21999702vdh.25.2011.09.27.20.36.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:36:06 -0500 From: Kenny Hitt To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: distributions for X Message-ID: <20110928033606.GC9834@hittsjunk.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <000001cc7d7b$31261310$93723930$@org> <4E828072.4000703@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E828072.4000703@earthlink.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 03:36:13 -0000 Hi. Not true. Since X is just the drivers for screen video card, keyboard, and pointing device: desktops like gnome and kde are x-windows. Sighted users don't just install and use x-windows. They install a desktop that uses x-windows for low level hardware support. Kenny On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:03:30PM -0400, Liz Hare wrote: > Hi Kelly, > > X is not accessible with speech. If you want a > multitasking/windowing environment, you might want to check out the > Gnome system with the Orca screen reader. I haven't used it yet, but > it's webpage is here: > http://live.gnome.org/Orca > > Liz > > Liz Hare PhD > Dog Genetics LLC > doggene@earthlink.net > http://www.doggenetics.com > > On 9/27/2011 9:35 PM, G.E. wrote: > >Kelly, > >Just what do you do with x windows? > >I saw your post and looked it up on the web, and wikipedia tried to explain > >it, but I still really don't understand it. > >Sounds like it is a server for terminals, but I don't quite get it. > >But wikipedia did say this about accessibility: > >" Computer accessibility related issues > >Systems built upon the X windowing system may have accessibility issues that > >make utilization of a computer difficult for disabled users, including right > >click, double click, middle click, mouseover, and focus stealing. Some X11 > >clients deal with accessibility issues better than others, so those with > >accessibility problems are not locked out of using X11. However there is no > >accessibility standard or accessibility guidelines for X11. Within the X11 > >standards process there is no working group on accessibility, so the known > >ongoing accessibility problems are probably going to persist into the > >future. > > > >" > >Anyway, I would be curios as to how it can be used. > >Thanks. > > > >Glenn > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Kelly Prescott" > >To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:08 PM > >Subject: distributions for X > > > > > >Can any one here give me information about which distributions work natively > >best with the XWindows system? > >I have used speakup and text for years, and dos terminals before that, but I > >want to give the X screen readers a try to see how they are moving along. > >Is there a out-of-the-box solution, or do I have to muck around with it. > >You can reply off-list to me if you want. > >Thanks. > >-- Kelly Prescott > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup