From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from opera.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [208.111.39.221]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5928BC1A40A for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from sonata.rednote.net (sonata.rednote.net [IPv6:2001:470:8:4ef:216:d3ff:fecc:ec01]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAIKRKH2009620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:27:21 GMT Received: from sonata.rednote.net (sonata.rednote.net [127.0.0.1]) by sonata.rednote.net (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAIKRJW3008930 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:27:19 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by sonata.rednote.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id oAIKRIqe008928 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:27:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: sonata.rednote.net: janina set sender to janina@rednote.net using -f Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:27:18 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: If bash can, why not Speakup? Message-ID: <20101118202718.GD2358@sonata.rednote.net> References: <98haom$7bpkcl@ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net> <20101117233043.GA26689@linux1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101117233043.GA26689@linux1> X-Operating-System: Linux sonata.rednote.net 2.6.35.6-48.spk.fc14.x86_64 X-PGP-Key: http://rednote.net/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:27:22 -0000 I think my main point got lost in the litany of vim complaints that have actually been with us for a long time. I was trying to say something new that no one has commented on. So, let me try to redirect, if I may ... William Hubbs writes: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:23:29AM +1000, pj@pjb.com.au wrote: > > Janina Sajka wrote: > > > My biggest complaint is that I need to be ultra-careful to > > > track whether I'm in insert or command mode, i.e. it would > > > sure help if Speakup could give me a differently pitched voice > > > > Good point :-) It might need some help from the vim folk... > > Yes, something like this would take modifications to vim to make it > communicate to speakup some how, and I'm not sure what that would > involve since I haven't looked at the vim code at all. > Actually, I don't think we need anything from vim. Note that you can have either vim or emacs editing of bash commands. Emacs is the default, but you can reset this by issuing: set -o vim By, default, this provides bash shell command editing in insert mode. As in vim, pressing Esc takes you into command mode where all the vim command mode functionality is provided. So, the shell knows. That's got to be a value that's written somewhere, and thus something Speakup could read and respond to. I don't know where, but am I wrong? Janina > William > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org Chair, Protocols & Formats Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/wai/pf World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)