From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pv0-f170.google.com (mail-pv0-f170.google.com [74.125.83.170]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89B3C1A1C6 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2010 12:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22so1854761pvc.29 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:35:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=RUh0cHH5AVagmg2rHT9qSyJ/J0KLKrTh1s0wm0nO4YQ=; b=UaUIEs3H1M4Xq2h+wGPvGYaZz1DRi5rgcCmZu2tVeIg9h/vOVBqYl0AQGRpCFfsvta O0qDPtCPc16RqXzER3wkcOsmBMTMUvM86yRYQx2/YSHG1pvVBuOfAvKmUNdxcRQzCMSH WHp3vBcucr+fi7+hpX3awLvuiZhcpk8amyNKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=euU1vnTJSlkFznUn2R4nsmO42pqI8tBWY9+eVRuUBhjLjrweSwg/B7Q8YmvznQLVzI gipAyZAUXHRjUArMSjIhu/rF55X5RFPsXatnOcu28C7HjSmSD1K1sIffg7Qmp0JMDCMT v4omlDDRHVdBvWL3mYLZtCHWW5oPw0/ZZgF9w= Received: by 10.114.182.17 with SMTP id e17mr5512871waf.8.1278433706921; Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-183-49-63.tx.res.rr.com [76.183.49.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm49750ybi.13.2010.07.06.09.28.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:28:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:28:22 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: rfc: speakup's character and punctuation processing Message-ID: <20100706162822.GA28268@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20100425212319.GA6910@linux1> <20100426145728.GA16095@gnuked.clearwire.net> <20100706062344.GB11200@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100706062344.GB11200@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:37:08 -0000 Hi Steve, On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 11:23:44PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > After going through 19 messages on this thread, I tend to lean towards > keeping the processing in Speakup. I need to point out something I > haven't heard even mentioned yet and that is with Capitalization. The > theory behind speech dispatcher has always been for the synth to > control all punctuation and capitalization - fine. But when you do > that and use speech dispatcher with espeak, you always get stuck with > that god-awful speaking of "Capital" before every capital letter. > Where Speakup and Orca's old gnome-speech services module can adjust > for pitch to indicate capitalization. I know espeak supports pitch > change for upper case letters but I don't think the speech dispatcher > module for espeak does; I think that's the problem Like I say, > speakup's current logic gets around what I feel to be a big problem. The capitalization processing is not handled by any synthesizers that I know of other than espeak, so that is not going to be changed in speakup. William