From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117DC10A17 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:58:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20081223155839.JRTP3882.mta11.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:58:39 -0500 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net ([24.151.121.233]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20081223155839.MEYF128.aarprv06.charter.net@h14me.homelinux.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:58:39 -0500 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBNFwdL5012722 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:58:39 -0500 Received: (from alex_snow@localhost) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id mBNFwdCH012721 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:58:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:58:39 -0500 From: Alex Snow To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: newsreading with debian lenny Message-ID: <20081223155839.GD12660@gmx.net> References: <20081222130050.GA2472@debian.Belkin> <20081222153954.GA2182@gmx.net> <20081222154742.GA18724@cq.ftml.net> <20081222222103.GA4085@gmx.net> <4950D1D1.1050000@baechler.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4950D1D1.1050000@baechler.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Chzlrs: 0 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:58:40 -0000 That makes sense...I haven't been on usenet for some years, but back when I was my isp had an account with supernews so everything worked pretty well just connecting directly. When they dropped supernews and installed their own servers (running Tornado I think it was called, some piece of crap nntp server that barely implemented the protocol correctly) and I drifted away from usenet although I also went off to school around that time so that might have caused it too. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:56:01AM -0800, Tony Baechler wrote: > Alex Snow wrote: > >If he's running leafnode he'd want to point his newsreader to > >localhost. > >I'm not sure why he'd bother use leafnode, I always just used rtin and > >set it to use my ISP's newsserver. > > > > Because maybe his ISP news server is slow and crappy like most are. > Unless you pay for something like Supernews, it makes more sense to > locally archive groups that you want to read. I have extensive archives > of some newsgroups that would be impossible with any ISP news server > that I've used. Even with a good news server, it seems common to have > dropped articles. I don't mean spam, I mean good articles that get > dropped for no reason. It's very hard to follow a discussion with 1/3 > of the conversation missing. No, I'm not pushing for Supernews, > actually there are better pay news services out there. I only mention > them because they're cheap and offer good text archives. I think it's > $5 or $6 per month. Granted that isn't free, but it's better than the > local ISP news server. > > In cases of readers other than tin, especially with very old readers > like slrn, they expect you to run a local news server, thus leafnode is > a good option. Usenet, like other aspects of the Internet, goes back a > very long time, long before broadband and the days when anyone could > pull their own small news feed. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- I still maintain the point that designing a monolithic kernel in 1991 is a fundamental error. Be thankful you are not my student. You would not get a high grade for such a design :-) -- Andrew Tanenbaum to Linus Torvalds