From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CB6109DD for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080921151814.FTRU3732.mta11.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:18:14 -0400 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net ([24.151.121.233]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080921151813.TAFY3342.aarprv06.charter.net@h14me.homelinux.net> for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:18:13 -0400 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m8LFI8HH026820 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:18:09 -0400 Received: (from alex_snow@localhost) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id m8LFI89H026819 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:18:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:18:08 -0400 From: Alex Snow To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: State of accessibility on BSD systems Message-ID: <20080921151808.GA26799@gmx.net> References: <20080920002732.1E33C10B3F@speech.braille.uwo.ca> <48D4C528.8030302@baechler.net> <20080920152153.GA20884@gmx.net> <48D614E3.8030206@baechler.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48D614E3.8030206@baechler.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Chzlrs: 0 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:18:04 -0000 All a serial console is is a computer running a terminal program like Minicom on unix or hyperterminal in windows. The only BSD I have had any experience installing was netbsd (I needed it to run a Mop server so I could netboot a microvax), and it had a text installer that was really easy to do over serial. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 02:33:23AM -0700, Tony Baechler wrote: > Alex Snow wrote: > >I was able to install netbsd without sited assistence a while back, > >and I believe there is a way to do this with freebsd. All I did was > >use a serial console, with Minicom under linux. > > > > > Yes, I forgot to mention use of a serial console. I don't have one and > thus have no experience with using it. I read here that it can be done > that way but again I haven't tried because I don't have one. How much > does it cost and how does it work? Do you just plug it into a serial > port and get speech? They seem to be popular and one might be useful to > have if it isn't expensive. > > Getting back to BSD installation, I can't comment on anything but > FreeBSD but it uses a text installer so perhaps it would be possible to > install via an emulator such as Bochs with a curses interface. NetBSD > claims to run on anything including the Vax so I'm sure it has a text > installer that could run in an emulator. If I try BSD again, I think I > would go with NetBSD just because it seems to be more historical > regarding older BSD software and does run on platforms which I've > certainly never heard of, far more than Linux. Either way, there is no > chance in the near future that Speakup will run on BSD because Speakup > is a set of Linux kernel modules. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Anyone who thinks UNIX is intuitive should be forced to write 5000 lines of code using nothing but vi or emacs. AAAAACK! -- Discussion on the intuitiveness of commands, especially Emacs