From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from opera.rednote.net (opera.rednote.net [75.125.70.226]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654F533EC1 for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 11:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from opera.rednote.net ([IPv6:::1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4HFfYIt007302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 17 May 2008 15:41:34 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4HFfYMl007300 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sat, 17 May 2008 11:41:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 11:41:34 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Last Fedora9 Steps on Congradulations Screen Message-ID: <20080517154134.GK5694@rednote.net> References: <000001c8b7c9$d5276f20$646e010a@PDMainserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <000001c8b7c9$d5276f20$646e010a@PDMainserver> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 2.6.25.3-18.spk.fc9.x86_64 Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on opera.rednote.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 15:41:35 -0000 No problem, Daniel. Apology accepted here. As many on this list know well, I've grown hot under the collar myself at times. You want to suspend with Ctrl-z to the shell. The HOWTO guidance on this is still correct. Then, get rid of firstboot as the HOWTO suggests. Making Speakup talk automatically is now different, as you've discovered. Basically, your objective is to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and put in the correct Speakup string for the correct kernel, but this isn't trivial because you're in a fairly minimal shell at this point, and you're not likely to have good feedback while editing. Command line works reasonably well--but editors are another story at this point. The easiest way is to reboot the F-9 machine. If you can login and start speech by hand at that point, editing will work as it should and subsequent boots will come up talking. You can also login over ssh from another machine, of course. Do a Ctrl-d to go back to the Fedora congrats screen, and press enter to reboot. This is probably the guidance that will make it into the rewritten HOWTO because of the difficulty editing in the suspended installation shell. Your objective in editing /boot/grub/grub.conf is to add the Speakup data something like the following from one of my machines: title =07Fedora (2.6.25-14.spk.fc9.x86_64) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25-14.spk.fc9.x86_64 ro root=3DUUID=3D800328ee-c0= 64-4bfb-ad96-d4086c8cc44e vga=3D0xF07 speakup.synth=3Dsoft speakup.quiet=3D1 initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.25-14.spk.fc9.x86_64.img IMPORTANT: The above is really only four lines, though it surely displays as more than that in this message. The four lines are title, root, kernel, and initrd. Were I have speakup.synth=3Dsoft you will want speakup.synth=3Dbns if I'm recalling correctly that you're using a Blazie device for speech. You'll want to delete thevga=3D0xF07 (or replace with a vga=3D appropriate to your machine); and you'll want to delete the speakup.quiet=3D1 statement, since you want Speakup to come up talking. IMPORTANT: If you have a xen kernel installed, ignore it. Put the above data on a non-xen kernel. You'll want to adjust the default statement up above to point to the correct kernel, and you'll want to add the ctrl-g chars and comment the hidden and splash statements as shown below and explained also in the HOWTO. default=3D1 timeout=3D20 #splashimage=3D(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz #hiddenmenu One last thing. If you're unaccustomed to running with selinux, it may give you some problems. You can edit /etc/sysconfig/selinux and edit the line that says: SELINUX=3Denforcing to say SELINUX=3Dpermissive . If you track the errors that will accumulate in /var/log/message and perform the selinux suggested remedies you'll find there, you can then go back to enforcing. Note that you'll need to reboot to put change this selinux policy. hth Janina Daniel C writes: > Because I would like to get FC9 installed, I have decided to try and work > with it to get speech. Originally I was, going to install FC7 but that > hasn't happened as of yet. > I'm at the last part on the congradulations screen, what do I do next? > I tried calling Bill but I think my phone wasn't working, so will try aga= in. > My apologies to Jenina, Kerk, Greg, and anyone else for what's happeend > today on this list on behalf of me. > There wasn't a need for it. I guess I am too use to Fedora7 that it's hard > for me to get use to FC9. > Thanks for the suggestion of calling Bill, or at least the excert of it, > Jenina. > =20 >=20 > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG.=20 > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1446 - Release Date: 5/16/20= 08 > 7:42 AM > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup --=20 Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Cana= da Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org=09 Linux Foundation http://a11y.org