From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from opera.rednote.net ([75.125.70.226]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1JwIh9-0006J1-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 11:15:07 -0400 Received: from opera.rednote.net ([IPv6:::1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4EFF6Rf018114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:15:07 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4EFF6jG018113 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 14 May 2008 11:15:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:15:06 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: UTF-8 and Speakup Message-ID: <20080514151506.GE11156@rednote.net> References: <20080513222439.GA2626@babel.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080513222439.GA2626@babel.localdomain> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 2.6.25-14.spk.fc9.x86_64 Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93rc1, clamav-milter version devel-20080219 on opera.rednote.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:15:07 -0000 Hi, I'm glad you brought this up. I've been wrestling with a Speakup related UTF8 issue for some time. Fortunately, there has been progress. 1.) The old situation where screen review would suddenly only see null chars appears resolved. I have been defaulting to LANG=en_US.UTF-8 on my Fedora 9 laptop without problems. 2.) However, I can still trigger that problem with null chars by suspending and then resuming. Since that pretty much destroys the usability of Speakup for me, I spent my entire week at the recent Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit working exclusively with Orca which suspended and resumed without incident. To the other question of mixed language pronunciation--I've not noted English Speakup being able to correctly pronounce foreign language chars. Would be nice, and may be possible, I suppose. In rich text environments (like web or OpenOffice), however, we should expect our synthesizer synthesizers to switch pronunciation on the fly, if content is correctly coded with tags. This may require loading more than one language, but that could be indicated by configurations. I believe there has been movement in this direction, but I expect it's mostly evident where rich text is properly parsed, which would mainly mean Orca. Janina Zachary Kline writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > I've been curious for a while now about Unicode, UTF-8, and related > issues. I imagine that whether or not Speakup works with Unicode > characters would depend in large part on the speech synthesizer used. > Add to that, of course, the fact that seeing a character on screen and > pronouncing it are two different things. So, all told, I'm just curious > about this topic in general: what works and what doesn't? I'm not going > to be doing anything foreign language related myself, but do like the > idea of being able to put in an accented letter now and again. > Best, > Zack.