From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com ([66.249.90.179]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1JWzOp-0001dr-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:35:35 -0500 Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b32so2139182ika.1 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.137.7 with SMTP id k7mr7622483hud.68.1204745733440; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [196.211.90.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b30sm2396633ika.11.2008.03.05.11.28.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:35:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 21:27:55 +0200 From: Rynhardt P Kruger To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: What window manager? Message-ID: <20080305192755.GA5054@rynhardtsbox> References: <47CD1EFC.8090302@baechler.net> <47CD5000.5050005@baechler.net> <47CE73D4.1040800@baechler.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47CE73D4.1040800@baechler.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:35:36 -0000 Hi, As I am using GRML and running gnome, I thought I would tell you how I have set it up for myself and some of my friends. Please note that some things I did may be totaly unnecisary but I did them just for incase. First I installed gnome, like this. apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment Then I installed orca. apt-get install gnome-orca I think gdm was installed when I installed gnome. It is neaded, because it runs at startup to make you login to gnome. I also whent to /etc/X11/xsession.d and created a file called 95gnome with the following line in it: /usr/bin/gnome-session (I don't think this step is necisary, but I did it anyway) When I restarted my computer, a short beep was sounded when I got to the graphical login. I type my username, press enter, type my password, press enter, and because of an error message about language en that isn't available, I press enter again. Now alt+f2 can be pressed to get to the run dialog and to get orca working by typing orca and pressing enter. Hope you could find an answer in the steps I took. Take care, Rynhardt p.s. If someone knows how to make that language message go away, I would appreciate it! * Tony Baechler [080305 21:02]: > Hi, > > OK, I definitely have Gnome installed. I looked at the pkg desc for gdm > and still don't know why I'm supposed to remove it. As soon as I tell > aptitude to remove it, I get a bunch of errors about broken packages. I > ran tasksel several times to install the desktop task like you said and > it just sat there at 0% even after waiting a long time. I have a fast > connection so I'm sure it wasn't downloading packages. I'm now positive > that I have all of Gnome installed. I ran startx and it still just > drops me on tty7 with no speech and no Orca. I'm sure I have gdm > removed even though it complained about gnome being broken. It still > wants to know what window manager to use and I don't think gnome itself > is a window manager. I've created new xorg config files from scratch a > bunch of times and still no luck. If I need to install something else, > what? I don't mind using Google but I'm not really sure what I'm > looking for since I'm sure gnome is fully installed now. It looks like > the window manager doesn't matter but whatever I pick doesn't work. If > I look at the x11-common pkg, it looks like it installs a bunch of other > window managers with no explanation of what to use. I don't mind > completely reinstalling everything but I'm not sure what pkgs to remove > other than gnome-desktop-environment. I still need help here and I'm > obviously missing something. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- I use grml (http://grml.org/)