From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1JWiCX-0007tD-00 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:13:45 -0500 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B24BACC61 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:13:45 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: c5faxkE66YizN31TCPu0mtg/SIO3iLb07ihUQK0I4u7U 1204679624 Received: from cq.ftml.net (24-105-220-93.cm.mhcable.com [24.105.220.93]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BBDFEB815 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from chuckh by cq.ftml.net with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JWiCW-0001je-Je for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:13:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:13:44 -0500 From: Chuck Hallenbeck To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: software speech problem after latest also upgrade Message-ID: <20080305011344.GA6624@cq.ftml.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20080305010636.GA6396@cq.ftml.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080305010636.GA6396@cq.ftml.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:13:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 woops! Did I really type "also" instead of "alsa"? Sorry about that. On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 08:06:36PM -0500, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Greg, > > On my system, a similar problem with software speech followed the > upgrade of the alsa libraries (libasound2) from 1.0.15 to 1.0.16, and > takes the form of the disappearance of the first couple hundred > milliseconds of a wave file played by aplay. > > The problem does a real number of software speech with espeak, which is > made up of numerous very short wave files, so it is more noticeable. > When you use flite, each wave file produced by that engine contains > leading and trailing silent periods, which makes it seem more sluggish, > but protects you from the alsa problem. > > If your recent upgrade of also was from 1.0.15 of the libraries to > 1.0.16, perhaps you have the same problem. > > Look more closely at how aplay handles wave files with abrupt onset of > audio and see if there isn't a very slow startup for the sound. I have > lots of sound effects here with fast onsets, such as the morse code > characters, cuckoo clock sounds, etc., where the problem is very > noticeable when aplay plays the files. > > And it doesn't help to switch to play any more either, since play now > uses alsa by default if it is present. > > I wish I knew how to backtrack to 1.0.15, but that version of the alsa > libraries is no longer available in the Debian unstable archive. > > Chuck > > - -- > The Moon is Waning Crescent (8% of Full) > > My web site is: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net, my phone is: 1-518-334-9022, > and sometimes I Jabber. My JID is: chuckh@jabber.org > -------- > For every vision there is an equal and opposite revision. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFHzfIc0maTgpPXM9cRAlTXAJ9uWnRYC9CfWouOSMKDN4orY/vougCfVIrl > BuBLdO/9ploFnlwIVu+ua/U= > =V5FD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (8% of Full) My web site is: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net, my phone is: 1-518-334-9022, and sometimes I Jabber. My JID is: chuckh@jabber.org -------- For every vision there is an equal and opposite revision. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHzfPI0maTgpPXM9cRAoKIAJ0cR+VbHfwXMDh3G2s3NE3KJ8sG4ACffE1B +cJoGdwoieon8aEuidK2Kow= =c1q0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----