From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.140]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IShh6-0000JW-00 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:20:29 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.20,208,1186324200"; d="scan'208";a="185631904" Received: from ppp121-44-7-29.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net (HELO themuso.com) ([121.44.7.29]) by ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 05 Sep 2007 08:49:48 +0930 Received: (nullmailer pid 6874 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:19:46 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:19:46 +1000 From: Luke Yelavich To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Speakup, 2.6.22, and Git Message-ID: <20070904231946.GA6848@themuso.com> References: <20070904080748.GD3689@implementation.labri.fr> <001901c7eed3$2d28b0a0$877a11e0$@net> <20070904103423.GA6981@themuso.com> <003101c7ef2e$9ea4e810$dbeeb830$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003101c7ef2e$9ea4e810$dbeeb830$@net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:20:29 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 06:03:04AM EST, Jim Grimsby Jr. wrote: > could you please explain how. I mean it seems to me that the insadent > highlights the problems that are interduced when you go a change the methodf > of doing some thing that does not need changing.there were other problems > that is why it was changed back. it seems to me that picking it up again > just means ofering the package on the cd. or ofering for it to boot It doesn't work that way. A distribution's development cycle must have a period where bugfixing and stabilising work has to take place, and priority over new features. Ubuntu is now in that stage, and will be so until the next release. Ubuntu dropped speakup for reasons outlined on this list previously, and re-adding it at this point, just because we can is not a good enough argument for me, and it would certainly not be a good argument for those who maintain the kernel, and the distro. Since the kernel maintainers have also changed their approach to Kernel development, the only chance we have of getting speakup back in, is when it becomes part of the mainline kernel. There is a good chance that I can get a speakup kernel created as an extra kernel in the universe repository for next cycle, but it certainly won't be on the main CD that gets shipped. I would gladly help Kirk et al with getting speakup up-to-date, if I had the knowledge to do so, and I dare say many others on the list feel the same way, but for now all we can do is wait till the code is updated accordingly, and only then once its in mainline, will it be in Ubuntu. - -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso@themuso.com Jabber: themuso@jabber.org.au -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG3egSjVefwtBjIM4RAmeKAKC+mSwhBPrA9xA6/wfHTzUdocJtWACgllPU zWipWOJPQ01deT+H6w7h1qk= =B8lP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----