From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from opera.rednote.net ([74.53.93.34]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IBt0e-0000i6-00 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:59:08 -0400 Received: from opera.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l6KDx1r9008377 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:59:06 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l6KDx1F4008376 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:59:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:59:01 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: some comments on the speakup-modified fedora install howto Message-ID: <20070720135900.GB6144@rednote.net> References: <20070720040257.GA6753@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070720040257.GA6753@localhost.localdomain> X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7spk Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:59:08 -0000 Thanks, Gregg. Good catch on TripleTalk and the typo. Much appreciated. FYI: The completed installation, once booted, does offer ssh but not telnet. The default condition of the installed F-7 is that only port 22 is open requiring the root passwd supplied during the install. As for the insecurity of telnet as an installation protocol, that's true, of course. Were we to take this up as a discussion point, I guess I'd argue that the exposure is short-lived and minimal, and therefore acceptable in most situations. Janina Gregory Nowak writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all. > > I've just read through the speakup-modified fedora installation howto, > and the telnet mini-howto, and have some comments I'd like to make. > > 1. When describing the speakup-supported synthesizers, the install > howto says: > > "iTripleTalk internal (PCI card) and Doubletalk internal (isa card) > dtlk." > > I wasn't aware that the tripletalk pci was supported by speakup. When > did this development take place? > > 2. The install howto says: > > "1. Switch to the second console by holding down the left Alt key and > pressing the F2 key. When you release these > you'll find that you're at a # prompt.i Notice that this prompt > is truly indicated by the pound sign--the # '#' > symbo." > > I'm guessing that "prompt.i" should simply say "prompt.", and that > "symbo" should really be "symbol" > > 3. The telnet howto explains how to install over telnet, but it > doesn't mention anything about logging in without speech > afterwords. Can one assume that the openssh server, if installed, is > ready for logins, and that root can login over ssh? Can one assume the > same for a telnet server, even though using telnet isn't > secure, unless you're on a trusted private lan? Finally, can one > assume that /etc/securetty is setup for allowing root to login on > pts/x consoles? I would suggest that this be mentioned in the telnet > mini-howto, so as to not leave the user without a hardware synth, and > without software speech ready to go, guessing at how to login after > the install. It also may not be a bad idea to mention either in the > main howto, or in the mini-howto, how you could make sure that a > telnet/ssh server is installed and ready to go after you reboot the > system once the install is done. Otherwise, this is as usual, well > written. > > Greg > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGoDPx7s9z/XlyUyARAoWfAJ9OFkii3Q3GKIYf9GFzg5SfXcIemwCfYNVO > ukxTYvZfEuRCcAc8hV5n54M= > =a5NU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org Linux Foundation http://a11y.org