From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from linserver.romuald.net.eu.org ([63.228.150.209]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I7aBf-0002ik-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:04:43 -0400 Received: (qmail 7683 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Jul 2007 10:04:12 -0700 Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:04:12 -0700 From: Gregory Nowak To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp Message-ID: <20070708170412.GB6601@localhost.localdomain> References: <20070708011035.GA4018@localhost.localdomain> <002001c7c137$522580a0$ccca6352@Parham> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002001c7c137$522580a0$ccca6352@Parham> X-PGP-Key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:04:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 11:33:30AM +0330, Parham wrote: > And also another question. What if Orca doesn't support an application? > Can I get the CLI-based one and try it with Orca then? If orca doesn't support a gui application, and there is a cli alternative, then you can get that, and try running it in a xterm. I haven't played much with orca support in xterm windows, so I don't know how well that compares to running with speakup in a text console, out of the gui. Some on here have said orca does well in xterm windows, others have said that it doesn't do as well as speakup does, so I don't know. > And you have put me in doubts that either CLI is the same as GNOME terminal. Mikel explained this well in one of his posts. Pretend you're using a win95/win98/winme system. In a dosbox (a command-line window running in the gui), you are running dos software, but are doing it in a gui, this is like running a xterm window inside of the gnu/linux gui. Now, If you went to the shutdown dialogue in our windows system, and chose "restart the computer in ms-dos mode", You'd be in pure dos, without the gui, and this is like the gnu/linux text console. Orca is therefore a gui screen reader that can read xterm windows for you the equivalent of the dosbox, along with reading the gui. Speakup is a screen reader for the text console, that will work only in the text console, the equivalent of using a screen reader in ms-dos mode in our windows example. I hope that makes sense between the explanation Mikel gave, and the one I just gave above. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGkRkM7s9z/XlyUyARAiwPAJ9+VdNqGlVQv3tM9Q4BWQN1uQaJHwCfeBJ/ xdmUZEIatuCqoIK3wVV6zNM= =1Vct -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----