From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mtao04.charter.net ([209.225.8.178]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I1pfI-0005sL-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:23:32 -0400 Received: from aa04.charter.net ([10.20.200.156]) by mtao04.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070622202259.CJGI1601.mtao04.charter.net@aa04.charter.net> for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:22:59 -0400 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net ([24.151.115.123]) by aa04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20070622202258.AGN12686.aa04.charter.net@h14me.homelinux.net> for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:22:58 -0400 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l5MKMwLe021819 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:22:58 -0400 Received: (from alex_snow@localhost) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id l5MKMwxu021818 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:22:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:22:58 -0400 From: Alex Snow To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: dectalk or double talk advice Message-ID: <20070622202258.GB21791@gmx.net> References: <1182496319.12506.12.camel@ubuntu1> <000b01c7b49e$31cd2970$6c01a8c0@tdsportable> <20070622194733.GA30841@localhost.localdomain> <1182543291.7974.8.camel@ubuntu1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1182543291.7974.8.camel@ubuntu1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on h14me.homelinux.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Chzlrs: 0 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:23:45 -0000 I survived both a Networking course and an Intro to Unix course using slackware while everyone else used SuSe. On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 04:14:51PM -0400, Cody Hurst wrote: > Hi Greg, > > Thanks for filling me in on Slackware. I will first look into the > double talk lt. I kind of figured serial would have to be my obvious > choice, however I jsut wanted to make sure. These systems are older (not > ancient) but bottom linie they more than likely have a few serials on > them. > > As far as the software part goes, are there any other alternatives to > speakup, so at least I can have a taste of a few if I should ever need > another one. It is just kind of up to me to I guess you could say "fend > for myself" on this course since the school really doesn't know what is > best for me and never has had a visually impaired person in their > networking course. I wish things woud work out of the box but we know > about that. > > Thanks, > Cody > > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 12:47 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > First, the operating systems mentioned were suse linux, and > > netware. There was no mention of windows, thus I don't see how the > > reference to jaws fits in, unless it was to explain how jaws gets its > > data, which is besides the point. > > > > Also, the reference to usb being the better choice was > > inappropriate, since speakup currently doesn't support usb synths, as has > > been mentioned here frequently, especially in recent threads. Having > > said that, if you're going to rely on speakup, you will want to be > > sure that all the work stations you're going to use have at least 1 > > rs232 serial port. If they don't, then you're in trouble if you > > expect to use speakup. > > > > Also, be aware that suse doesn't include speakup in their > > distribution, and I'm not aware of any existing suse kernels with > > speakup patched into them. You mentioned also not being sure about the > > accessibility of slackware. Actually, slackware was the first > > distribution to include a speakup-patched kernel in the official > > slackware media. > > > > As for which synth to choose, I think the 2 biggest factors in that > > decision are the speech, and the price of each. The doubletalk lt is > > cheaper than the dectalk usb, which does also have a serial port as > > far as I know. As for the speech, I personally prefer that of the > > doubletalk, but that's probably because I've used a doubletalk far > > more than I have used a dectalk, and others may disagree here as > > well. Speech is a very qualitative subject, and there is no synth that > > fits every person's taste perfectly. As an aside, you wouldn't have > > been able to use a doubletalk pc anyway, because they aren't being produced > > anymore, and because it is very hard these days to find a pc with an > > isa slot. Hth. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:23:06AM -0700, Littlefield, tyler wrote: > > > First, you're not going to get speech support without a program. > > > The screen reader puts hooks in the kernel, or catches the video in the case > > > of jaws, and translates. > > > Next, I'd recommend USB, because, if you start using newer systems, most > > > don't have a serial port. > > > Third, the accessibility of slackware is fine, unless you insist on running > > > under gnome, x, or something else, then you're really not getting the > > > benafit of linux. > > > HTH, > > > > > > - -- > > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > > skype: gregn1 > > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > > > - -- > > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFGfCdV7s9z/XlyUyARAhQoAKC2pAxtaBHQFbcRxJ7X3YAKxDtHqwCg1nOM > > uSZ2tei1eRwXa/lpYrCpqgg= > > =UAdR > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- But what can you do with it? -- ubiquitous cry from Linux-user partner