Re: [ot] Windows programming

[Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>]

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Another option for a development environment is microsoft's windows
services for unix:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=896C9688-601B-44F1-81A4-02878FF11778&displaylang=en

If you want to use an ide, which uses mingw as the compiler, check out
dev-c++:

http://www.bloodshed.net/dev/devcpp.html

It's fairly accessible with wineyes, a bit more so after I created a set
file and key label dictionary for it.

As for a win32 tutorial, I found:

http://winprog.org/tutorial/

to be useful. 

Since we're discussing this on here, does anyone know of anything for
c/c++ that would abstract the win32 api a bit more, so it wouldn't be
such a chore to program for it, making it a bit easier to write win32
applications? Thanks.

Greg



On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:49:37PM -0500, Doug Sutherland wrote:
> The simplest windows programming environment for a linux programmer 
> is of course GNU C, which you have already mentioned. Cygwin is more 
> full functioned than MinGW but more complex and has a few quirks that 
> I really do not like, for example it's installation process is bizarre and 
> annoying, the way it maps windows directories to unix naming is weird,
> the options for file types can be confusing, and I found that sometimes 
> its impossible to remove all of cygwin. It creates some files that just 
> cannot be deleted, I hate software that does that. On the other hand 
> it's an impressive environment, you can almost have it look exactly 
> like a linux machine.I have used Cygwin and MinGW and I have to 
> say that MinGW was simple in the way I like it. I do not like complex 
> development environments. I don't want to spend a week just to 
> figure out how to do hello world. MinGW is faster to get actually 
> programming with, and although limited in comparison, was just 
> right for my needs. It has the win32 API:
> 
> http://www.mingw.org/docs.shtml#win32api
> 
> I did some win32 with this and I loved it because it's GNU and very 
> straightforward. The Win32 API however is extremely complex and 
> very annoying. Surprised? <g> Your battle will be more one of 
> understanding the win32 API that one of tools. It can take quite a 
> while to do the simplest of things with win32. I would recommend 
> looking for some small tutorials, that's what I did and found a few 
> that got me started. Find a getting started tutorial for MinGW and 
> look for really simple win32 examples. I didn't do any win32 serial 
> code but you can most likely find some examples on the net. 
> I don't know anything about SAPI.
> 
>   -- Doug
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