From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mtao01.charter.net ([209.225.8.186]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ho8WT-0008Cs-00 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:41:49 -0400 Received: from aa07.charter.net ([10.20.200.159]) by mtao01.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070516014119.URJP1417.mtao01.charter.net@aa07.charter.net> for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:41:19 -0400 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net ([24.151.83.102]) by aa07.charter.net with ESMTP id <20070516014118.GYUB17495.aa07.charter.net@h14me.homelinux.net> for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:41:18 -0400 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l4G1fIij015275 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:41:18 -0400 Received: (from alex_snow@localhost) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id l4G1fIAF015274 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 15 May 2007 21:41:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:41:18 -0400 From: Alex Snow To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: heretical thoughts was Re: Speakup dropped from Ubuntu Message-ID: <20070516014118.GA15268@gmx.net> References: <87sl9yndw2.fsf@cox.net> <006d01c79731$203d52f0$224a5c46@brent827e59cc1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006d01c79731$203d52f0$224a5c46@brent827e59cc1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on h14me.homelinux.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Chzlrs: 0 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 01:41:50 -0000 the solution to that is usb->serial converters. I'm going to school for IT, and hope to get a job in networking at some point soon, so made sure the laptop I got had a serial port. While this wasn't the only deciding factor, it was pretty high on the list. I was willing to sacrafice some of the 8 or 16 serial ports on certain laptops (why would someone want that many USB on a laptop anyway)? for a serial port. On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 03:39:24PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: > Well, what about that gear that is probably in service all around that uses > serial ports for administration? I was thinking of going back to school for > a networking-related career, and from what I gather, RS232 could be the most > important thing I could theoretically want on a laptop. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C.M. Brannon" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:24 PM > Subject: heretical thoughts was Re: Speakup dropped from Ubuntu > > > > Hi folks, > > I had a couple of observations that may not sit well with most of you ... > > > > Hardware synthesis is becoming obsolete. Why? More and more systems, > > especially laptops, are being manufactured without RS232 ports. When > > I buy my next laptop, I won't let the presence of RS232 be a > > determining factor. The vendors of USB synths won't release their > > product information, so these are unsupported. Thus, I'm not buying > > one. Who wants to do business with people like that anyhow? So it > > looks like software speech is the way of the future, at least for me. > > Next, software speech is more convenient, especially when using a > > laptop. You have to carry one less peripheral with you. > > > > The question to ask is this. Given the decline of hardware synthesis, > > is it really necessary to have speech support within the kernel > > itself? Software synthesizers run in user mode, so the benefits of a > > speech-enabled kernel -- notably a talking boot process -- are lost. > > > > Comments are welcome. > > > > PS. I'm not a GUI user, so I'm arguing from a console / command-line > > perspective. > > > > -- Chris > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- How do I type "for i in *.dvi do xdvi $i done" in a GUI? -- Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces