From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mtao05.charter.net ([209.225.8.179]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1HPKiI-0000aS-00 for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:39:30 -0500 Received: from aa08.charter.net ([10.20.200.160]) by mtao05.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070308153900.QYCV17038.mtao05.charter.net@aa08.charter.net> for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:39:00 -0500 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net ([24.151.83.102]) by aa08.charter.net with ESMTP id <20070308153859.FTWR1421.aa08.charter.net@h14me.homelinux.net> for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:38:59 -0500 Received: from h14me.homelinux.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l28Fcxwr017393 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:38:59 -0500 Received: (from alex_snow@localhost) by h14me.homelinux.net (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id l28Fcxb8017392 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:38:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:38:59 -0500 From: Alex Snow To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Suggestion: Speakup desktop guide Message-ID: <20070308153859.GA17388@gmx.net> References: <20070308033547.GA15248@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on h14me.homelinux.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Chzlrs: 0 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:39:30 -0000 I'm still using windows (2000 mainly) for anything I need a gui for, though that is likely to change in the near future with the accessibility features in gnome becoming more and more usable...I am currently building gnome 2.17 to evaluate what's available...I would drop windows in a heartbeat when the unix GUI becomes accessible... On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 08:04:41PM -0800, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hello, > I am curious, admittedly, what you use for graphical environments? Is it > Orca? Gnome? Something else? > Thanks, > Zack. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Snow" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: Suggestion: Speakup desktop guide > > > >A graphical environment does have its advantages...I find the console > > web browsers inadiquit for lots of things (full javascript support, > > flash, adn java applets come to mind), and certain file management > > tasks are far easier in a guy then cli, such as copying files from a > > directory to somewhere else, where the multiple files to be copied are > > not contiguous. > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:43:05PM -0300, Cleverson > > wrote: > >> Hi Zack, > >> > >> In fact, I don't know if the term "desktop" aplies to people who prefer > >> command line programs rather than graphical ones, but I really think > >> there > >> is no reason to use a graphical environment, since text mode is faster > >> and I > >> think there are console programs for any task. > >> > >> For blind users, perhaps the only difference is that in text mode you > >> should > >> memorize some command strings instead of key strokes. Nothing's hard, to > >> me > >> at least... > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Cleverson > >> > >> "Be realistic; ask for the impossible." > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________________ > >> Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor op??o para voc?! > >> Experimente j? e veja as novidades. > >> http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > I don't know why, but first C programs tend to look a lot worse than > > first programs in any other language (maybe except for fortran, but then > > I suspect all fortran programs look like `firsts') > > -- Olaf Kirch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system. -- Linus Torvalds