From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from opera.rednote.net ([70.84.142.212]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Fp6Dm-00067u-00 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:21:59 -0400 Received: from opera.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by opera.rednote.net (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k5AGLvPF026152; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:21:57 GMT Received: (from janina@localhost) by opera.rednote.net (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5AGLsVu026151; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:21:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:21:54 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: Orca screen reader developers Subject: Re: getting orca included in gnome 2.16 Message-ID: <20060610162154.GG2259@rednote.net> References: <447F2C89.8090507@sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <447F2C89.8090507@sun.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: Linux opera.rednote.net 2.6.16-1.2122_FC5spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Cc: blinux-list-bounces@redhat.com, FSG Accessibility , ma-linux@tux.org, speakup@braille.uwo.ca, gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8rc1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:21:59 -0000 Mike Pedersen writes: > We have been informed, however, that there can be only one screen > reader/magnifier in the GNOME desktop. > That's a rather outrageous attitude. Who made that decision? Are they also prepared to have only one web browser? ONly one media player? ONly one word processor? Only one email client application? The day may come when there is but one screen reader on the GUI desktop, but I rather doubt it given that both Gnome and KDE are likely to remain with us. However, to proactively restrict inclusion while all manner of other (sometimes only half-baked) applications are included rankles. Frankly, it's an insult. This kind of grudging support for accessibility needs to be stopped right now. In fact, it's a stretch to even call it "support." Do these deciders wonder that people in Massachusetts got so upset last year over the simple move to an open file format. Given this kind of attitude, they'll never change their minds Always remember that just proclaiming, "we support accessibility," doesn't make it so. We will not judge by published proclamations but rather by deeds. -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.240.715.1272 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada--Go to http://ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org