From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from user-0c8hp0m.cable.mindspring.com ([24.136.228.22] helo=taylor.homelinux.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1EMGsM-0006FH-00 for ; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:20:26 -0400 Received: from lorenzo by taylor.homelinux.net with local (Exim 4.53) id 1EMGsJ-0004q2-Ts for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:20:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:20:23 -0400 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20051003032023.GC16565@taylor.homelinux.net> References: <20051002193803.GG27840@rednote.net> <000101c5c78c$efacb830$6701a8c0@QUARK> <20051002202354.GA27847@rednote.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051002202354.GA27847@rednote.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 From: Lorenzo Taylor X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: lorenzo@taylor.homelinux.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on taylor.homelinux.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL autolearn=ham version=3.0.4 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:44:12 +0100) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on taylor.homelinux.net) Subject: Re: Speakup in user space, why or why not? X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 03:20:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 According to Janina Sajka: # In other words, you get Speakup across any and all consoles that you # might open. In my case that's 24 consoles (or 23 on the machines where I # also have a GUI Desktop). Try that from user space. I don't think it # could be done. Brltty does it. And I don't think it's just because it uses a braille display. Somehow, it always has access to the currently open console in userspace. # Then there's persistence--meaning that your access continues to function # in the face of whatever might happen to an application you're running. # Not only kernel panics will talk, but any application gone awry can # often, nay usually, be brought under control from a second console. I'm not sure about kernel panics, but brltty does this too from userspace. While I had my braille display, if I had any trouble with an app, I could always switch to another console to fix or kill it if necessary. Lorenzo - -- Living your life is a task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDQKN3G9IpekrhBfIRAotlAJ99HRhdeFdzWBAlUfNBTorpOj/R9QCeMvfO t+WB2ED3luF+/7HG6YEwSks= =KF1R -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----