From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from uni06mr.unity.ncsu.edu ([152.1.1.169]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Dxuq7-0002zB-00 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:57:27 -0400 Received: from QUARK (cpe-069-134-173-071.nc.res.rr.com [69.134.173.71]) (authenticated bits=0) by uni06mr.unity.ncsu.edu (8.13.4/8.13.3/N.20050331.02) with ESMTP id j6RMvFBY011242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200507272257.j6RMvFBY011242@uni06mr.unity.ncsu.edu> From: "Sina Bahram" To: "'Laura Eaves'" , "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:57:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 In-reply-to: <01ca01c592fb$428116d0$d9c611ac@Charmin> Thread-Index: AcWS+1kleqZtAJmIRGOplb8SwxTGbAAAxeFg X-PMX-Version: 4.7.1.128075, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.3.2, Antispam-Data: 2005.7.27.29 X-Spam-Status: No, Hits=7% X-Spam-Level: IIIIIII Subject: RE: An idea, X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:57:27 -0000 Hi Laura, I never mentioned a camera at all. I'm talking SVG, not OCR for text, but recognition of SVG elements for contextual information about certain situations and environments. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Laura Eaves Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:34 PM To: speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: An idea, Hi Sina -- Well, I have been following the discussion on ossrp-control (in case you forgot I'm subscribed) and hope for a good solution, but after having worn out my right eye with diminishing vision for year after year and having people tell me an external camera was the way to go rather than hacking into X-Windows when I was on unix ((I did try modifying xwindows but dropped it as my vision was such that it was impossible for me to test and I could get no one where I worked interested in helping out), and then trying to learn to use screen mag and screen readers on windows before they were developed enough to be useful for the apps I needed to use,..., anyway, after all that I am still a bit leary of a solution using only an external camera -- whether to magnify or to do tts or ttbraille. I have been so relieved at the speed possible using a screen reader that the thought of wielding a camera around in front of a screen again as my only means of reading the screen makes me a bit nauseous... But I am not dismissing it as a bad idea, only saying not to pin all hopes on that as the only idea for all applications. So is it better to dive headfirst into the guts of the operating system, or sit on the outside and so OCR or image recognition? Interesting thought. But back to speakup -- obviously we all know which is the bias on this list! Take care --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" < sbahram@nc.rr.com> To: "'Laura Eaves'" < leaves1@carolina.rr.com> ; "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" < speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: RE: An idea, Well ... I hope to prove you wrong Laura my dear, since that's exactly what Will and the rest of us are doing with the OSSRP that you've heard us talking about on the other list. SVG makes a great deal of the contextual part of this possible. Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- ... _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup