From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DwjT9-00042E-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:36:51 -0400 Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com (frontend2.internal [10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7735ECC2A8A; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:36:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Sasl-enc: 6G66J2NsPbHH3YleTqULTCTyx/TnOFLddKHjXhXkWBC6 1122223009 Received: from hhs48.com (24-105-197-112.cm.mhcable.com [24.105.197.112]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id A496F570147; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chuckh by hhs48.com with local (Exim 4.52) id 1DwjT8-0004GB-21; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:36:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:36:49 -0400 To: hank smith , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20050724163649.GA16360@hhs48.com> References: <20050724160444.GA15734@hhs48.com> <000901c5906d$b6ebd130$650fa8c0@homea8jg9wply4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000901c5906d$b6ebd130$650fa8c0@homea8jg9wply4> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Charles Hallenbeck Subject: Re: Speakup installation X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:36:51 -0000 Heavens no, no one does a full installation. On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 09:35:28AM -0700, hank smith wrote: > and you need all 14 cds? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Hallenbeck" > To: ; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:04 AM > Subject: Re: Speakup installation > > > > No typo. The complete Debian package comes on 14 CD's, that's fourteen, > > ten plus four, The point being that I simply assumed you would know I > > meant Debian. > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 09:26:51AM -0600, Steve Dawes wrote: > > > Chuck, > > > > > > It isn't quite that bad. Your type'o has suggested that a full install > is 14 > > > cds. I think you meant to say 4 cds. If you install all source in > addition > > > to all the binaries, you end up with 7 or 8 cds or 2 dvds. > > > > > > The problem I have with the selecting everything, or doing the full > install, > > > is that it is the easy way out. Yes it works, but it installs a lot of > > > unnecessary stuff and uses up a lot of resources. A good case in point > is > > > that it installs both kde and gnome. > > > Additionally, it doesn't install absolutely everything as it implies, it > > > installs almost everything on the binary disks and you need to install > the > > > source separately if you wish to. This approach also does nothing in > > > teaching how to set up a system with only the packages you need and > want. > > > > > > If you are only going to be using console based programs, there is no > need > > > to install any of the kde or gnome packages. It is incredible how much > space > > > can be saved when you take this approach. > > > > > > Now I am not knocking the installation howto that Janina has written. I > am > > > saying that what it does is a quick and easy install that gets the first > > > time user up-and-running on Linux. What I would like to see however, is > > > something that tells the user where they can find out more information > on > > > how to trim down their installation to only the packages they are going > to > > > use included in the howto. A simple reference to the Linux document page > > > > does nothing to direct a new or novice user to good information about > > > creating a smaller or tidier installation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > Steve Dawes > > > Calgary Canada. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (85% of Full) > > But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 7/22/2005 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (85% of Full) But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh