From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from concerto.rednote.net ([66.92.170.139]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DoPFw-0000Bl-00 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:24:48 -0400 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j61HOlEZ006604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:24:47 -0400 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j61HOkCS006603; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:24:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:24:46 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: sdawes@telus.net, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20050701172446.GA4364@rednote.net> Mail-Followup-To: sdawes@telus.net, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20050628183905.GI10311@rednote.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.11-1.35_FC3spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by concerto.rednote.net id j61HOlEZ006604 Subject: Re: Speakup Modified Fedora 4 Will Be Delayed X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:24:48 -0000 I am under no obligation to answer any question you may think of. I have explained why the 2.6.12 kernel is relevant to patching Speakup into the current FC4 Redhat kernel. That's as far as I'm going with this. Steve Dawes writes: > It has nothing to do with RedHat's policies. It is simply the fact that= you > have made a statement about the kernel supplied with the latest > distribution, and then you avoid fully answering any questions that spa= wn > from your statement. >=20 > Oh yeah, another thing, if you want to use profanity in your messages t= o me, > I don't mind. All I ask is that you spell it correctly. Damn has m n at= the > end of it and is not spelt with two m's. That said, there may be others= that > do mind, so be mindful to their feelings if you need to use them. >=20 >=20 > Steve Dawes > Calgary Canada. >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:39 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Speakup Modified Fedora 4 Will Be Delayed >=20 >=20 > It's quite clear you think Red Hat should have a different policy. Take > it up with them. I really don't give a damm about that. >=20 > Dawes, Stephen writes: > > Yes you have answered that portion of the question, but you refuse to > answer the question about where in the rpm naming convention does it te= ll me > where the level of patching is indicated. You have said that the kernel= is a > 2.6.11 kernel that has a number of patches that makes it appear to be a > 2.6.12 kernel. So do you or don't you know where it tells this informat= ion > in the rpm naming convention and where exactly it is located in the > kernel-2.6.11-1.136_FC4.i686.rpm name. > > > > There is an old clich=E9 that goes something like, "if it walks like = a duck, > looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck." Well, as= I > said a long while back, if it looks like kernel-2.6.12, and it acts lik= e > kernel 2.6.12, then don't call it something that it isn't as fedora has > done. > > > > Janina, I have noticed something about the way in which you answer > questions over the years. That is that you don't answer the entire ques= tion, > but that you only answer the portion of the question that you feel like. > This approach only provides partial information, and often is not what = the > requestor is looking for. You wrote that you maintain the fedora speaku= p > modified howto, and for the work you do on this document it is good. > However, your howto is only an installation document, and when people w= ant > to go beyond the information provided you start to get defensive and ca= ll > their quest for information things like idle speculation. Janina, what = is > idle information is partial answers like the ones that you are in the h= abit > of providing to peoples questions. > > > > > > Steve Dawes > > Phone: (403) 268-5527 > > Email: SDawes@calgary.ca > > > > > > > > NOTICE - > > This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or enti= ty > named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a pers= on > responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended > recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copyi= ng of > this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictl= y > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please no= tify > us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communicati= on, > or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary than= ks > you for your attention and cooperation. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >=20 > -- >=20 > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com >=20 > Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. G= o to > http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. >=20 > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup --=20 Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go = to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org