From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from concerto.rednote.net ([66.92.170.139]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DnKzD-0004iB-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:39:07 -0400 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5SId6uZ018850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:39:06 -0400 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5SId6eT018849 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:39:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:39:05 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20050628183905.GI10311@rednote.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.11-1.35_FC3spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by concerto.rednote.net id j5SId6uZ018850 Subject: Re: Speakup Modified Fedora 4 Will Be Delayed X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:39:07 -0000 It's quite clear you think Red Hat should have a different policy. Take it up with them. I really don't give a damm about that. Dawes, Stephen writes: > Yes you have answered that portion of the question, but you refuse to a= nswer the question about where in the rpm naming convention does it tell = me where the level of patching is indicated. You have said that the kerne= l is a 2.6.11 kernel that has a number of patches that makes it appear to= be a 2.6.12 kernel. So do you or don't you know where it tells this info= rmation in the rpm naming convention and where exactly it is located in t= he kernel-2.6.11-1.136_FC4.i686.rpm name. >=20 > There is an old clich=E9 that goes something like, "if it walks like a = duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck." Well= , as I said a long while back, if it looks like kernel-2.6.12, and it act= s like kernel 2.6.12, then don't call it something that it isn't as fedor= a has done. >=20 > Janina, I have noticed something about the way in which you answer ques= tions over the years. That is that you don't answer the entire question, = but that you only answer the portion of the question that you feel like. = This approach only provides partial information, and often is not what th= e requestor is looking for. You wrote that you maintain the fedora speaku= p modified howto, and for the work you do on this document it is good. Ho= wever, your howto is only an installation document, and when people want = to go beyond the information provided you start to get defensive and call= their quest for information things like idle speculation. Janina, what i= s idle information is partial answers like the ones that you are in the h= abit of providing to peoples questions.=20 >=20 >=20 > Steve Dawes > Phone: (403) 268-5527 > Email: SDawes@calgary.ca > =20 >=20 >=20 > NOTICE - > This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity= named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally = privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person= responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended re= cipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying o= f this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictl= y prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please no= tify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communic= ation, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary= thanks you for your attention and cooperation. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup --=20 Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go = to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org