From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from concerto.rednote.net ([66.92.170.139]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DgXXb-0003ih-00 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:38:31 -0400 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5A0cVen017938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:38:31 -0400 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5A0cVen017937 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:38:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:38:31 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20050610003831.GE14179@rednote.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <200506081730.NAA10032@pacino.3wmail.com> <001301c56c4f$7848f2b0$77ac7682@azwaterDOM.wr.usgs.gov> <20050609232720.GC14179@rednote.net> <4C68AD07-871A-42B6-AC64-0FABF45D5CF1@handsontechnologeyes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.11-1.14_FC3spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: web browsing and section 508 under linux X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:38:31 -0000 Remember that 508 applies to U.S. Federal web sites, not to anyone else unless someone else has voluntary decided to adopt 508 guidance. Thus, the Feds most certainly have always defined their own what can and cannot be done by the government itself, subject only to review by the courts. I found the following: http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/guide/1194.22.htm#(l) PS: Be careful with this URL. If you issue it on the command line, as for example: lynx http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/guide/1194.22.htm#(l) it will break unless you quote the URL: lynx "http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/guide/1194.22.htm#(l)" Guess the Access Board isn't omniscient! Karen Lewellen writes: > Wait, > That I want to see in writing. Since when does the government dictate > which scripting agents are to be used? 508 means basically ease of access > which generally means non-graphical, as you cannot fully control the > graphical structure. > If people are being told that, it is time someone filed an anti-trust law > suit against freedom scientific. > Karen > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, David Poehlman wrote: > > >I was told that it must have text in the script but that it does not have > >to support non js user agents. > > > >-- > >Jonnie Apple Seed > >With His: > >Hands-On Technolog(eye)s > > > > > >On Jun 9, 2005, at 7:27 PM, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > >Ah, and maybe I missed something else? I don't recall Sec. 508 requires > >js. My recollection of Sec. 508 regs is that any use of scripting is > >supposed to degrade in an accessible manner if a script capable user > >agent is in use. > > > >Ryan Mann writes: > > > >> > >>Lynx is limitted in functionality. For example, there is no > >>support for Javascript. > >> > >> > >>On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Sean McMahon wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Why can't you test complience with a text-based browser. I'm sure if > >>> something > >>> works in lynx, it would be complient right? > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Jared" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:30 AM > >>> Subject: web browsing and section 508 under linux > >>> > >>> > >>> I have to do some testing for section 508 compliance on a product at the > >>> company > >>> I work for. I know I will be using internet explorer under windows. This > >>> product > >>> is supposed to be cross platform, is there any browser that's accessible > >>> enough > >>> to test under linux which works under x-windows? Appreciate any info. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> This message was sent using 3wmail. > >>> Your fast free POP3 mail client at www.3wmail.com > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >>> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >>> > >>> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >> > > > >-- > > > >Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) > >janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > > >Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > >Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > > >Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go > >to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more.