Re: Planning a VoiceOver Main Menu Review

[Kenny Hitt <kenny@hittsjunk.net>]

Hi.

Your questions have already been answered in a long thread on this list
over the weekend.  You might want to read the archives, or finish
reading your mail.

          Kenny

On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 12:13:06PM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote:
> If voiceover is built-in, does this mean you can configure/install a whole
> operating system from scratch without sited assistance?  I don't know how more
> built-in you could get then speakup which is patched into the kernel.  If you
> mean comes with linux, well what comes with linux depends on you really.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Jane Lee" <applegoddess@gmail.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for
> Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Planning a VoiceOver Main Menu Review
> 
> 
> > I have a hard time conceivingg of a kernel based access as "stand
> > alone."
> >
> > Still, but really tickles me is that you mention Speakup in the same
> > breath with JAWS, and you even mention it first.
> >
> > Seems we've arrived.
> >
> > Jane Lee writes:
> > > I'd just like to make it clear that VoiceOver is built into the Mac OS
> > > X operating system, not a standalone program like speakup or Jaws.
> > > After Freedom Scientific and others gave up on the Mac platform
> > > because of the even smaller market, Apple and their devs figured they
> > > should do all of the accessibility work in house, and that's how
> > > VoiceOver started.
> > >
> > > You cannot, I repeat, cannot, port VoiceOver to another OS like
> > > Windows or Linux.  It relies on the Mac OS too much.  This also means
> > > that VoiceOver cannot work on an iPod.
> > >
> > > On another matter, the cheapest Mac out there is 500 dollars, and is
> > > called the Mac mini.  Since the new operating system came out on the
> > > 29th of April, as of now, if you go online or to a store and buy the
> > > Mac mini, it will come with the OS and VoiceOver.  If you're planning
> > > on going out maybe today or within the next week, inquire about
> > > whether or not it comes with Tiger, which is the OS that VoiceOver
> > > comes with, and not Panther just in case.  Be warned, the Mac mini
> > > does not come with a keyboard, a mouse or a monitor.  This computer
> > > was meant for PC and Mac users already with older computers that don't
> > > mind keeping their old setups.  Mac laptops, such as the iBook or the
> > > Powerbook, start at around 1000 dollars.
> > >
> > > Voiceover is not an additional application that you have to pay for,
> > > it comes with the OS, which is 129 dollars.  Some third party
> > > retailers will have it at a discounted price, while schools, teachers
> > > and college students will be able to buy the OS from Apple or a
> > > university bookstore at the education price, which is 69 dollars.  A
> > > "family pack" that gives you a license for use up to 5 computers is
> > > 200 dollars but has restrictions and only comes with one install disk.
> > >
> > > Personally, I haven't been able to try out VoiceOver much on my Mac,
> > > but I found that the accessible installation of OS X, the VoiceOver
> > > enabled login menu and the overall integration makes it fun and easy
> > > to use.  There's no serial number to install the OS and there's no
> > > activation (like Windows) either.
> > >
> > > If you have any specifics on how to use a Mac, go to the local Apple
> > > retail store and ask one of the people there.  The genius bar at all
> > > the stores should be able to help you out with setup (like turning on
> > > VoiceOver for the first time).  If you have technical questions on
> > > problems with your Mac, feel free to drop me an email :)  I can help
> > > out with most of the smaller issues.
> > >
> > > If you're looking for anything in particular though (about Apple,
> > > their computers, anything, really) feel free to drop me an email.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > jane
> > >
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> > -- 
> >
> > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040
> > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> >
> > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org
> >
> > If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.
> >
> >
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