From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from concerto.rednote.net ([66.92.170.139]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DIcvr-0002ST-00 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:32:43 -0400 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j351Wgh2017865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:32:42 -0400 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j351Wg1N017864; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:32:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:32:42 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: fleytin@yandex.ru, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20050405013242.GG11527@rednote.net> Mail-Followup-To: fleytin@yandex.ru, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <200503102131.j2ALVnLv004792@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> <87hdimd4u4.fsf@starlight.net> <20050404141003.GX11527@rednote.net> <874qemd14x.fsf@starlight.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874qemd14x.fsf@starlight.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.10-1.770_FC3spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: getting off my windows dependency X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 01:32:44 -0000 Hi, Sergei: Oh, I certainly agree that programmers should keep our needs in mind. Unfortunately, they need also to keep in mind the needs of people who do not hear, the people with no hands, the people who tend to flip chars in words, etc., etc., etc. There are many many kinds of disability, and accessibility is about all of these, not just blind braille users, or blind speech users, or low vision people, etc., etc. That's why it's important to develop clear ideas of responsibility, and to make sure that accessibility support is both thorough and sufficiently generic. Sergei V. Fleytin writes: > Hello, Janina, > > >>>>> "JS" == Janina Sajka writes: > > JS> Why would browsing by line, word, or char be a browser feature? It > JS> seems to me such functionality is the responsibility of the > JS> assistive technology, not the browser. > > > Janina, I agree with you in general, but in my opinion it is not a > very bad things when developers have our needs in mind. Those of us > who used DOS operating system in the past should remember how many DOS > applications included support for blind users and therefore made our > life easeire even when some of us used screen reader with very poor > functionality. Therefore I am very pleased that some of the linux > developers follow such a good practise. > > -- > With best regards, Sergei. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.