From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.knology.net ([24.214.63.101]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Colak-0006Jo-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:43:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 10571 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jan 2005 16:43:51 -0000 Received: from user-24-236-69-150.knology.net (HELO localhost) (24.236.69.150) by smtp6.knology.net with SMTP; 12 Jan 2005 16:43:51 -0000 Received: from kenny by localhost with local (Exim 4.34) id 1ColbL-0003ad-OM for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:44:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:44:07 -0600 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20050112164407.GA13432@blackbox> Mail-Followup-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <05ac01c4f845$1d7a6950$6601a8c0@geekspeak> <20050112020959.GZ790@rednote.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050112020959.GZ790@rednote.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i From: Kenny Hitt Subject: Re: An Accessible Adobe Reader for Linux X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:43:31 -0000 Hi. Can you provide examples where writing a ncurses program to act as the interface to a Gnome app would be helpful? Based on my experience with Gnome, if the program provides the accessibility info, then it is accessible in Gnome. If it doesn't provide the accessibility info, I can't see how adding the extra layer of an ncurses app talking to a GTK app will help. I agree Gnome screen readers still need work, but wouldn't it be better to focus on improving them? Kenny On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:09:59PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > Laura Eaves writes: > > Hi Janina -- > > I tried sending this once before but it bounced due to message size... > > But as for gnome: > > That is interesting about the query capabilities of the gnome interface -- > > but I disagree that implementing a full ncurses, text-only representation > > based on these queries is necessary, as that would just require a lot of > > useless code to do screen layout of text when graphical screen layout has > > already been done by gnome, right? Actually, some users don't know this, but > dGo > > I didn't say it was necessary. I said it was possible and that there are > good reasons to consider doing it that way, not the least of which being > that gnome is not very accessible, whereas the console is. >