From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-084.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.84] helo=concerto.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CoPuA-000105-00 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:34:06 -0500 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0BHWDbK030840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:32:13 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0BHWDqU030839 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:32:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:32:13 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20050111173213.GV790@rednote.net> References: <20050110174910.GA445@romuald.net.eu.org> <01c601c4f7a1$30a6ce50$6601a8c0@geekspeak> <20050111151112.GU790@rednote.net> <036c01c4f7f2$59f48580$6601a8c0@geekspeak> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <036c01c4f7f2$59f48580$6601a8c0@geekspeak> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.10-2.1.ll.rhfc3.ccrmasmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: An Accessible Adobe Reader for Linux X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:34:07 -0000 I don't believe msaa is held in very high regard on gnome and kde. In fact, MS is abandoning it with Longhorn. Laura Eaves writes: > Hi -- thanks for the link -- I'll take a look -- but as for MSAA, the > library implementation is proprietary to Microsoft, but the interface is > not -- in fact the library is available for use in any windows app, whether > developed on linux or whatever. In fact I have heard firefox is using it > for its windows implementation. I guess what I was wondering is if the same > or at least similar object library interface might be appropriate for use > cross platform. Of course the underlying implementation would be different, > but the information passed to a screen reader -- say to recognize text boxes > and navigate controls on a GUI -- would be enough the same that the MSAA > interface could be used. > But now that I think of it, Microsoft I hear is going another direction with > respect to accessibility, so that MSAA may become obsolete for windows in a > a year or two. Ah the joys of competition... Perhaps they are thinking of > grabbing business away from the screen reader companies??? they deny it but > if they are removing MSAA I assume there is a reason. > Take care. > --le > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:11 AM > Subject: Re: An Accessible Adobe Reader for Linux > > > To learn about the "hooks," as you call them, consult the developer > pages at: > > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/ > > Laura Eaves writes: > > Well, on windows, acrobat7 is actually the release that makes pdf > > accessible -- if you have jaws6 that is. but it is interesting that a > > similar update is being created for linux. > > I'm not familiar with gnopernicus, but does anyone know what hooks are > > used > > there to make an app accessible? on windows it is MSAA. > > Or is the interface the same as MSAA? > > > Definitely not MSAA. > > > After all, that's Microsoft's proprietary property, right? Not open > source nor a free license at all. > > > Just curious. > > --le > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.