From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-084.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.84] helo=concerto.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CQ13E-0006Jx-00 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2004 05:10:36 -0500 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA5A9jlf004378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 05:09:45 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iA5A9h2w004377 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Fri, 5 Nov 2004 05:09:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 05:09:43 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20041105100943.GA4128@rednote.net> References: <20041104035619.GA2553@bruzos> <009201c4c290$ebda54d0$0564a8c0@bonny> <002001c4c29b$cb82c180$0564a8c0@bonny> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.9-1.667spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: earliest possible software speech at boot? X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:10:41 -0000 I may be way off, but the only way I can think to do what he wants is to build an initrd that holds everything necessary. OK, that's a theoretical solution. I don't know that anyone has even come close to such a thing. Maybe this isn't even theoretical but rather conjectural. Kirk is correct. Software and hardware synths are not drop in substitutes for one another. Each type has its advantages and drawbacks. Kirk Reiser writes: > Um, look, if you want the benefits of a hardware synth then you need a > hardware synth. During a boot you can't really run any other software > simply because the partitions haven't been loaded and you don't even > have a writable root partition mounted at that point. > > This is one of the reasons I built speech into the kernel so you can > manipulate your system by yourself. If you have to depend on other > software to do that then you cannot manipulate your system by > yourself. > > At this point in time there are no software synths which will either > fit into the kernel or operate in the kernel because of floating point > restrictions. If someone wants to write one we will all be grateful. > Until then buy a hardware synth if you need it early. > > Kirk > > -- > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > phone: (519) 661-3061 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040