From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-084.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.84] helo=concerto.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CPXzW-0005Cc-00 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:08:50 -0500 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA437xqu006822 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:07:59 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iA437xQS006821 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:07:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:07:59 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20041104030759.GA4274@rednote.net> References: <20041101213931.GA30821@bruzos> <20041102133354.GI6259@rednote.net> <20041103114035.GJ6259@rednote.net> <20041103130035.GA29007@blackbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.9-1.667spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: writing spk howto (?) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:08:55 -0000 With this clarification, Chuck, I think we're all sync sync. Chuck Hallenbeck writes: > I guess I need to clarify myself on this. Kenny's ideas seem exactly > right to me. What I intended to suggest was the need to avoid a howto > which was based exclusively on one distro without recognizing that > others exist. Something that has sections such as: > > For Debian users, do this: > > For Redhat/Fedora users, do this: > > For Slackware users, do this: > > My own experience reading howto's has been disappointing when, for > example, a discussion of installing a name server describes the steps > for Redhat users, with no alternative steps given for persons who do not > have the distro specific configuration tools to run. > > Let me also say that if it were necessary to start with a good howto for > just Degbian, say, or just Fedora, that would still be better than not > having a howto at all. > > Without checking back on my original post, I don't think I am really in > disagreement with Janina or Kenny here. > > Chuck > > > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > >Hi. The ideal HOWTO in this case would hava a section for each distro. > >I don't believe there is any easy way to just write instructions that > >are independent of a specific distro. > >For example, I only have to build speechd-up from CVS on my Debian box. > >Unstable has a Debian package for speech-dispatcher 0.5. I believe the > >version in testing is still at 0.4, but haven't checked. > >I have to disagree with Chuck on this one. When I look for a HOWTO, I > >try to find a Debian specific one first and only use a "general" HOWTO > >as a last resort. I've found doing things my distro's way just makes my > >life easier. > > > > Kenny > > -- > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (66% of Full) > Home page at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh > Speakfreely address 24.105.197.112:2074 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040