From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-084.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.84] helo=concerto.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1COygm-0000Nh-00 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:27:08 -0500 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA2DQIUp031538 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:26:18 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iA2DQIin031537 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:26:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:26:18 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20041102132617.GE6259@rednote.net> References: <20041101213931.GA30821@bruzos> <20041102005411.GA4511@tomass.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041102005411.GA4511@tomass.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.9-1.649spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: writing spk howto (?) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:27:13 -0000 Thomas Stivers writes: > On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 04:39:31 PM -0500, David Bruzos wrote: > Janina Sajka has put together an altogether more useful howto for > speakup and fedora the address for which I can not remember. Thanks, Thomas, for this commendation. The HOWTO is at: http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html Hmmm, maybe I should talk to kirk about registering a simpler address. > > > Oh, I am also a Linux newbey, so I might ask > > simple questions sometimes... > > I love simple questions, they're the ones that are easy to answer > One problem with HOWTO documents is that experience is not always a good thing. Of course, you have to get the facts right, and you can't fudge (too much) on that. But, experienced users often forget the most basic things, and these are absolutely essential if a HOWTO is to be useful, especially to other newbies. Of course, I hope you will leave the common things, such as how to uncompress a .tar.gz file, to the countless other docs that have explained this a thousand times! > - -- > "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. > Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, > by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan > > Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBhtqz5JK61UXLur0RAtDRAJ9kItBJ1dolZFfBsc97uyVQ8eiDOgCfQWES > ts31Al3+dsWEgi6q6zKLtso= > =yHQe > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040