From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-084.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.84] helo=concerto.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CMyk0-000846-00 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:06:12 -0400 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9S15Lk1014093 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:05:21 -0400 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i9S15LlG014092 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:05:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:05:21 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20041028010521.GD9805@rednote.net> References: <002701c4bc78$167aa3d0$0400a8c0@hankwin> <008b01c4bc81$741d5920$6401a8c0@DJTWWQ41> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008b01c4bc81$741d5920$6401a8c0@DJTWWQ41> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.9-1.640spksmp Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: Internet Broadcasting X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:06:17 -0000 I'm not into dj applications, so I don't think about cross fading in the sense of queueing up several selections and having them play automatically. So, I just plain haven't looked into that, if that's what you mean. I can tell you that I can fade up and fade out with ecasound. And, it's certainly possible to have a second selection start fading up when the first one fades out, but I rather suspect you may have something different in mind. I am very convinced, however, that we are not as knowledgable about the options available to us from the command line for audio management. Let me put it this way: Does anyone here use gstreamer from the cli? Did you know you can? I just learned that the other day. John McCann writes: > Hank wrote: > > "you can't cross faid with linux and I have yet to find a consol program > that does this sort of thing > any one know something I don't?" > > If they do, I hope that they will speak up...so to speak, ! > > What I ultimately envision doing is a radio show on either ACB radio or the > "for the people" (FTP, not to be confused with "file transfer protocol") > site. I don't know whether or not anyone who is doing internet broadcasting > on either of those sites is using a linux box to do so. > > Now, when Janina responded to my initial post, she did say: > > "Seems to me that linux would be a more stable and more accessible server > for that [internet broadcasting]." > > I believe that the folks I know who are doing internet broadcasting are > using their computers as music terminals or studios which stream content up > to some other server which people then log on to; hence, were I to do this, > I don't believe my computer would be acting as a server. > > My primary motivation for becoming conversant with linux was because I > wanted to host my own http and ftp sites. Now, if my father said this once > in his life, he said it ten thousand times: "The right tool for the right > job." (He worked in construction all his life.) So, given my desire to > self-host my own jamsite.us domain, and with > the above-quoted montra in mind, there was no way I was going to use > microsoft's software for that task, with all its security flaws, > instability, etc. However, if, in fact, what Hank believes is > correct...that their is no linux software that supports cross-fading, then > windows, even with all its flaws, may be the "right tool" for that, the > "internet dj", job. Indeed, less than an hour ago, I read Sean McMahon's > post about the availability of OCR software running under linux. > > The point of this discussion being simply this; (and I'm not pointing any > fingers at any specific individuals on this list; I am oftimes perturbed by > a pervasive attitude which seems to exist in certain sectors of the linux > community which holds that anyone who uses microsoft software is the > anti-christ. Hey, you use what you got to use...or what you know how to > use...to get the job done in the way that you want or need for it to be > done. I would exhort those who hold the aforementioned view to allow it to > serve as a motivation for working toward the day when the catalog of > application programs written for linux is every bit as robust as that > written for windows, which operating system, whether those in the linux > community would care to acknowledge it or not, (and irrespective of how they > or anyone else feels about it) is the predominant operating system today. > > John > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040