From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-084.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.84] helo=concerto.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CC2vC-0000FF-00 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:20:34 -0400 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8RLJgPx019840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:19:43 -0400 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8RLJggZ019839 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:19:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:19:42 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20040927211942.GJ7958@rednote.net> References: <20040927181736.GL7958@rednote.net> <001601c4a4cc$365bdc50$6400a8c0@DESKWRIGHT> <20040927202508.GU7958@rednote.net> <20040927205245.GD7958@rednote.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.8-1.541.root Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: Linux and data storage? X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:20:34 -0000 Yes, this is useful. It's probably beyond what she needs to be concerned about, but certainly useful. Luke Davis writes: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Janina Sajka wrote: > > >600 certainly does help. Can you build a tar and chmod at the same time? > > Hmm, an interesting question. There are two ways to test this idea, which > I will now attempt... > > Starting the tar process in one window (using screen), and in another > listing the file in /tmp, shows, 644. Doing a chmod to 600, while the tar > is still in progress, then listing the file again, shows 600. So that > solution appears to work, as would, of course, backgrounding the tar > process, and changing the mode. > > The other method: > > touch /tmp/ldtf.tbz > chmod 600 /tmp/ldtf.tbz > tar --bzip2 -cf /tmp/ldtf.tbz ~/ > > also acomplishes the task of keeping the file private, so I suppose the > answer is yes, in all possible ways. > > >I realize we're splitting hairs here. > > So what? The more hairs you split, the more lessons you learn about hair. > Put another way: in order to determine the means by which something > operates, is frequently to split it open, and see! > > Luke > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040