From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-084.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.84] helo=concerto.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CC2Me-0007AT-00 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:44:52 -0400 Received: from concerto.rednote.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by concerto.rednote.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8RKi0BR019537 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:44:01 -0400 Received: (from janina@localhost) by concerto.rednote.net (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8RKi0wH019536 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:44:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:43:59 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20040927204359.GB7958@rednote.net> References: <20040920191737.GA6381@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> <20040927181142.GI7958@rednote.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux concerto.rednote.net 2.6.8-1.541.root Organization: Capital Accessibility LLC (http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com) X-PGP-Key: http://www.CapitalAccessibility.com/JaninaSajka_gpg_key.html Subject: Re: Linux and data storage? X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:44:52 -0000 Your "data stored in Pine for you," as you put it, is probably also part of your home directory. It's probably in a directory called mail. Never fear. There are ways to exclude the mail directory when you copy your files into a tar archive file. The best way to get a number on how much you have to back up, then, is probably to get a total on your home directory and all its subdirectories, then do the same thing for the mail directory and subtract. Karen Lewellen writes: > Hi again > Thanks for the command! > I will want to know this regardless, and am guessing, I hope correctly, > that it is only my home directory, not the data stored in pine for me. > Thanks again, > Karen > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Janina Sajka wrote: > > >Hi, Karen: > > > >You don't say how much data you have there? Issue the following command > >from your home directory to find out how much data you have: > > > >du -ms . > > > >It will give you a number in megabytes. It may take some time to run. > > > >Now, to your question. You ask whether it would be easy. Well, yes, it > >might be, or it might not be. > > > >It's not likely to be pleasant to move copious amounts of data over a > >dial up modem connection, but there are easy technologies that can > >insure you get a true copy even if it takes some time to accomplish. > > > >I'm thinking of rsync. > > > >And, yes, you are on the right track. Hardware and software can be > >replaced. One's work/data files cannot be so readily replaced. So, it is > >wise to have one's important data in two physical clocations. > > > >But let's start out by defining how much "a lot" is. > > > >Karen Lewellen writes: > >>Hi all, > >>This is an odd one, so I hope I ask it in such a way to make sense. > >>I do not have a Linux machine. I have been trying to get this, and > >>thought I had one in the he works but it seems that party either made up > >>the machines they were offering, or for some other reason is not coming > >>through. > >>In any case, I do use a Linux shell service extensively. I fear almost > >>too extensively, as you will understand in a moment. > >>The OS on the system i use mostly is dos, and I use nettamer to telnet to > >>my Linux shell. > >>In the workspace of my shell service i have a great deal of irreplaceable > >>files and programs. I eave them up here, for ease, but I just was > >>reminded that this may be a venerable state of affairs. > >>Fortunately when the server went down nothing was lost or so it seems, but > >>I have a serious factor to consider. > >> My question has two parts. > >>first, is there a way to move large amounts of data stored in the > >>workspace of a Linux shell service to another location in tact, with > >>relative ease, and without taking all of the data on the entire system? > >>second, if my machine was also a Linux one, would this kind of storage be > >>easy to do? > >>As I said before I do not have such a machine, but this has shaken me up > >>enough that if a full Linux or Linux/dos or Linux/windows machine would > >>give me some firm safe backup, I will have to start advertising for > >>someone to build this for me and encurl the expense. > >> I have too busy a professional life to do this myself, and would rather > >>pay someone with the skills than lose valuable time trying to re-invent > >>the > >>wheel. > >>Thanks, > >>Karen > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Chair > > Accessibility Workgroup > > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > > >janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040