From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from iq-ind-as007-193.iquest.net ([209.43.57.193] helo=garrettk16.dyndns.org ident=12345) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BOqiW-0008Aq-00 for ; Sat, 15 May 2004 00:24:09 -0400 Received: by garrettk16.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D4E420C2E; Fri, 14 May 2004 23:24:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:24:06 -0500 From: Garrett Klein To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20040515042406.GA3444@garrettk16.iquest.net> References: <20040511202509.GA13399@gmx.net> <20040511223904.GA4357@lnx2.holmesgrown.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040511223904.GA4357@lnx2.holmesgrown.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: Newbie questions about booting Slackware X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 04:24:10 -0000 Another nice thing to do is put a line like alias=1 in your default Kernel image section, that way you can just press 1 then enter to boot. Then the next image gets a line at the end of its section, alias =2, then alias=3 for the next section, and so on... Garrett On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 03:39:14PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > I never recalled a lot of danger warnings about lilo but quite > frankly, I don't see how one could boot a system without it. I guess > one could use syslinux from floppies or something but lilo is quite > easy to use. Like so many other linuxish things, one should read up > on it to get the most out of it. The Slackware liloconfig script does > a fine job in creating bootdisks and also a fine job at configuring > your boot strap for your hard disk. I've dual and single booted using > lilo for years and never had problems with it. Just remember to run > lilo every time you build a new kernel or you won't boot:). > > One beauty of using something like lilo is you can set up several > entry points or labels in your lilo.conf to point to possibly > different kernel images. This way, you could experiment with a new > version of a kernel or different options of such and if it fails to > boot then just boot with your "tried and proven" version. 'man lilo' > will give you a good explanation of lilo and how it works; also look > at 'man lilo.conf' which will explain the various options to > lilo.conf. > > The previous comments about building a bootdisk are most valuable. I > have a machine at home that for some reason, won't boot off hard > drive. - old machine with a new larger drive I guess. The boot floppy > saves my butt on that machine. I've also been saved by a boot floppy > when I screwed up my hard disk boot image. > > One other thing. When it comes to the lilo.conf file, you can put in > those extra parameters like synth selection and any other kernel parms > you might need to use on the image line so you could get down to a > short name or single letter to select the boot image you want. If you > want any examples of lilo.conf, I'll be glad to send you one privately > or I'll bet some others on the list would do likewise. Then you can > compare examples. > > On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 03:04:18PM -0700, Debee Norling wrote: > > Alex writes: > > > > >You should install lilo. I'm not sure why it makes it seem like lilo > > >is such a dangerous thing to install...I guess it's because eomeone > > >who's dual-booting can screw up their system. > > > > They should really say then that dual-booting is dangerous. The install (and > > the current docs which I've also read for Slackware) imply you should stay > > away from lilo and that magically, your system will boot when you're > > finished. > > > > If I was mislead, so will be others, so it's now in the Speakup archive -- > > install Lilo and ignore the warnings. > > > > It's silly nowadays anyway to dual-boot; machines are so cheap that even a > > person on fixed income can afford them. I used to be very poor and now, I > > work at a community college with disabled students, so I know what it means > > to be on fixed income. > > > > Our local surplus stores have 350MHZ pentiums with 3GB hard disks for > > between 20 and 60 dollars without operating system, depending on the other > > options like CD writer and USB. For $100, you can get a surplus (probably > > refurbished) Pentium II with about 96MB of ram, a 4GB hard drive, a legal > > Windows operating system and a slow CD writer. When you visit on Saturdays, > > the 486 computers are stacked in dusty racks outside with signs that say > > "make an offer". > > > > Granted, I live in Silicon Valley, but a little web shopping can get you the > > same thing. In fact, my two favorite surplus stores, Halted Specialties and > > Weird Stuff Warehouse, both sell on the internet as well, and their labeling > > about whether stuff has been tested is honest. Just buy some old junk > > machine for $100 and skip the messy dual-boot! > > > > > > --Debee > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >